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Hamilton On Pole
Topic Started: Sep 6 2008, 02:02 PM (1,372 Views)
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any idea when the appeal maclaren put in will be decided?
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Sep 8 2008, 11:49 PM
any idea when the appeal maclaren put in will be decided?

a date hasnt been confirmed yet
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Sep 8 2008, 09:05 PM

hamilton breached article 303 of the 2008 FIA formula one sporting regulations and appendix 1 chapter 4 article 2 of the international sporting code

have you read those?

article 3.03 simply states a driver must use only the track, however further in it talks about what to do if you have to use another part, this is where its about handing back the lead, which he did, so thats negated.

as for appendix one of the international sporting code, the FIA's website doesnt have appendix one on its current sporting code.

heres and interesting piece for you, After Lewis let Kimi back past, the team back at the pits got on the radio to race control to ask if it was enough and they said yes thats fine. So that was basically a go ahead from Race control that Lewis could continue racing. How can they justify the race control people giving the go ahead and then penalising him?
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Sep 9 2008, 05:37 PM
woodbine2
Sep 8 2008, 09:05 PM

hamilton breached article 303 of the 2008 FIA formula one sporting regulations and appendix 1 chapter 4 article 2 of the international sporting code

have you read those?

article 3.03 simply states a driver must use only the track, however further in it talks about what to do if you have to use another part, this is where its about handing back the lead, which he did, so thats negated.

as for appendix one of the international sporting code, the FIA's website doesnt have appendix one on its current sporting code.

heres and interesting piece for you, After Lewis let Kimi back past, the team back at the pits got on the radio to race control to ask if it was enough and they said yes thats fine. So that was basically a go ahead from Race control that Lewis could continue racing. How can they justify the race control people giving the go ahead and then penalising him?

and do you have proof that race control said that
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Mclaren obviously do, would be rather stupid of them to say it if they hadn't, especially when thats evidence they are going to put to the FIA in the appeal should it be taken up
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I've lost all support and love for Ferrari now. After, Massa and Montezemolo blatantly bullshitted through their teeth.
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Eddie no nonsense crap
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“Let’s get this straight from the outset. I’m going to hold no punches in this article because the decision to strip Lewis Hamilton of the race win was bizarre! I think Formula 1 is an absolute joke now and it has lost all credibility. Lewis did as well as he could have done in relation to the law and was still penalised. Okay, so he took the legality of it to the limit but I definitely think he was on the right side of the limit.

“For starters, Kimi pushed him off the road in the first place! Lewis overtook him and Kimi blatantly pushed him off so the reason why Lewis missed the chicane was because of Kimi. Lewis let him back past by just enough so he could then pull a great overtaking manoeuvre into the next corner. I don’t know whether it was the FIA or the stewards on the day but the sport has lost all credibility and the bias is simply ridiculous.”
“If it wasn’t for Virgin Media, I wouldn’t watch F1 anymore. I’ve had enough of this bulls**t. I’m not so sure the FIA has a bias for Ferrari as such but I definitely think they are biased against McLaren. I think if it was BMW, Toyota or someone else it wouldn’t have happened. I don’t understand why teams now just don’t go and do their own thing. They don’t need the FIA and they don’t need CVC capital. They need to plan to break away on a certain date and pay a bunch of lawyers to run the company. The teams make the money and there is a board in place to make decisions as they do with the NFL in America. It’s disgraceful where it’s got to now.

“How Massa never got a penalty in the last race was bulls**t. A fudged up excuse was made for him afterwards because they couldn’t think fast enough to do it during the race! It reminds me of the Bush administration. Lazy, bad judgement, self-serving and you don’t know where it’s coming from. Who is it that is creating all this bulls**t?”
“If you look at the letter of the law, I don’t see how McLaren’s appeal can’t be successful. He has to be re-instated but then again, we are talking about the FIA and they are a bunch of idiots.

“The great shame of it was that it was such an exciting race. Hamilton was amazing and he is quite simply a better driver than any of them. He has pure class and they know it. He has a better feel, is more committed and has better judgement. I am looking forward to Robert Kubica and Fernando Alonso getting into better cars and then we’ll have an amazing championship. But if this bulls**t keeps happening, I don’t know if I’ll want to watch it anyway! It is horrible to see this injustice happening. Everyone can make a mistake but this is mistake after mistake after mistake after mistake. Complete incompetence.”

“I got banned for three races because a car lost its flywheel in front of me and I swerved instead of braked. I told them I didn’t have time to brake at 200mph! They compared it to a motorway accident where if you swerve from an outside lane into another lane and cause an accident you are at fault. But at 200mph you are not supposed to be sitting three feet from the car in front of you on the motorway. In F1, that’s exactly where you’re meant to be. The FIA have been stupid before and made many stupid decisions but I have never known an organisation turn so corrupt. They should be embarrassed to take that race win away from Lewis. Lewis can’t blame the team or himself.

“Next up is Monza and I am hoping to go but I doubt the FIA will give me a pass after what I have said! But who cares, someone has to say something because it’s getting ridiculous now. I’m looking forward to Monza. Great race, great people, brilliant atmosphere but probably usual bulls**t!”

Talk to you after Monza – if they let me in!

Eddie Irvine.
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fair play eddie!
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