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Topic Started: Sep 26 2008, 04:59 PM (802 Views)
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RetardedDwarf
Sep 26 2008, 06:24 PM
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Sep 26 2008, 07:15 PM
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Sep 26 2008, 06:11 PM
It'sREDinRussia
Sep 26 2008, 07:08 PM
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Sep 26 2008, 07:06 PM
If Rooney has being playing crap for as long as some peeps r saying, Fergie would have dropped him a long time ago. Fergie has never seemed to mind how big a name he drops. Surely the best judge off what Rooney gives MU is Fergie and he would drop him without a 2nd thought if he wasnt doing a good job.

Who would he have dropped him for?

A 20% fit Saha?

So now your saying that there is no one in the entire united squad that can play instead of Rooney..................my my, Fergie must have really ducked up then. U would expect better from a manager of his quality.

Well looks like we tried for Berba last season but with him just moved wasnt likely to get him. Not fergies fault Saha was crocked. Also we signed Manucho who had to be loaned for work permtit. Also Ronaldo could play up front as we had plenty of cover for midfield.

Sure ended up winning the double so Fergie didnt do to badly ah? :cheeky:

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Only that im going out in a few im not editing my whole post down to a fullstop. :lol: :ph43r:
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Sep 26 2008, 07:11 PM
It'sREDinRussia
Sep 26 2008, 07:08 PM
RetardedDwarf
Sep 26 2008, 07:06 PM
If Rooney has being playing crap for as long as some peeps r saying, Fergie would have dropped him a long time ago. Fergie has never seemed to mind how big a name he drops. Surely the best judge off what Rooney gives MU is Fergie and he would drop him without a 2nd thought if he wasnt doing a good job.

Who would he have dropped him for?

A 20% fit Saha?

So now your saying that there is no one in the entire united squad that can play instead of Rooney..................my my, Fergie must have really ducked up then. U would expect better from a manager of his quality.

It's not Fergie's fault Saha was crippled, it's not his fault he couldn't buy Berbatov, and it's not his fault Ronaldo is better suited on the wing.

So yes, we were short of options, hence the Berbatov buy.
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Fergie could easily have dropped Rooney for Tevez, no problem. But fergie's no mug he knows just how much Rooney brings to the team and tbh I wouldn't drop him for anyone. What ppl seem to always overlook is just how important Rooney and Ronaldo are to each others' games. If you look at games over the last 2 seasons especially when one has played without the other their game is just not the same.

My only concern with Rooney is that by HIS OWN STANDARDS certain parts of his game have not progressed to the level he is capable of achieving. That however is a far cry from those who believe he's no good.

As for Torres, the test of all great strikers in particular is their 2nd season. There's no doubt that defenders who played against him and the managers of those clubs will try and be a bit wiser this time. I have to admit I wasn't expecting Torres to have as good a first season as he's had, I thought it would take him a little time to adapt, but he was and is a phenominal player. Maybe in way he was too prolific last season because he's set the bar for himself high in other peoples' eyes.

IMO i sometimes think the views of fickle fans who say a player playing at the highest level is cr4p just because of a few games is unfortunately the symptoms of analytical armchair critics who have lost touch with the reality of playing football. People are spoilt with the quality of football on telly so much these days they lose touch with reality.

The true test is ask anyone whether they'd have the likes of Rooney or Torres in their team and anyone in their right mind would snap them up.
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If i remember rightly, Rooneys scoring rate last season was the highest he has ever had. 42 games and 18 goals. Thats 1 goal every 2.33 games. He has never been a 30+ a season player, but even with everybody saying how badly he is playing, still think his 2.33 sr was the best season he has had.
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Sep 26 2008, 07:47 PM
If i remember rightly, Rooneys scoring rate last season was the highest he has ever had. 42 games and 18 goals. Thats 1 goal every 2.33 games. He has never been a 30+ a season player, but even with everybody saying how badly he is playing, still think his 2.33 sr was the best season he has had.

Not a bad goal-scoring record but he is far too overhyped. Commentators and fans alike seem to have such anticipation when Rooney has the ball even though he usually ends up losing it attempting passes that just aren't on.

Good player, not a great one.
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tbh i think people are too quick to try and protect players like rooney, i know i have certainly never said he is crap... just that he has been playing crap and i cant really remember anyone that has seriously said he is crap...

for me especially i have said a few times this year that rooney has been crap however this does not mean that i dont understand his potential or what he is capable of... more a commentary that he is not doing what he is capable and him running all over the pitch chasing the ball isn't him really being as effective as he can be
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Sep 26 2008, 07:54 PM
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Sep 26 2008, 07:47 PM
If i remember rightly, Rooneys scoring rate last season was the highest he has ever had. 42 games and 18 goals. Thats 1 goal every 2.33 games. He has never been a 30+ a season player, but even with everybody saying how badly he is playing, still think his 2.33 sr was the best season he has had.

Not a bad goal-scoring record but he is far too overhyped. Commentators and fans alike seem to have such anticipation when Rooney has the ball even though he usually ends up losing it attempting passes that just aren't on.

Good player, not a great one.

Not disagreeing about that, but if u look at the stats, he had his best season for United last season, but peeps r saying he isnt playing well. If thats the case, he has never played well for any period of time.

If Rooney came on the market, prob every major CL would be vying for his services. I have never been a member of the Rooney camp, but do believe that Fergie knows more about football than i do.
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when rooney has played in a central posistion for England or United this season, he has been far from crap.

when he's been out wide, he's been doing a job
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azward
Sep 26 2008, 07:00 PM
when rooney has played in a central posistion for England or United this season, he has been far from crap.

when he's been out wide, he's been doing a job

i'm sorry but you are wrong, he had one good game this season and that was away against croatia
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Sep 26 2008, 07:04 PM
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Sep 26 2008, 07:00 PM
when rooney has played in a central posistion for England or United this season, he has been far from crap.

when he's been out wide, he's been doing a job

i'm sorry but you are wrong, he had one good game this season and that was away against croatia

lol, ok Mr Partridge.

Against Chelsea you thought he was poor down the middle?
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Sep 26 2008, 07:04 PM
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Sep 26 2008, 07:00 PM
when rooney has played in a central posistion for England or United this season, he has been far from crap.

when he's been out wide, he's been doing a job

i'm sorry but you are wrong, he had one good game this season and that was away against croatia

lol, ok Mr Partridge.

Against Chelsea you thought he was poor down the middle?

yes, like the rest of the team he was good for 20mins and s**t the rest of the game...

i honestly believe that when we go a goal up he sits much further back than where he can be effective and is essentially a wasted player
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when he was playing off Berb in as a 2nd striker he was fine.

After United scored, he wasn't the one sitting back, he was the one having to come deeper to get the ball. (But he still causing Chelsea problems).

now is that him being poor, or the support being poor?

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Sep 26 2008, 07:59 PM
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If i remember rightly, Rooneys scoring rate last season was the highest he has ever had. 42 games and 18 goals. Thats 1 goal every 2.33 games. He has never been a 30+ a season player, but even with everybody saying how badly he is playing, still think his 2.33 sr was the best season he has had.

Not a bad goal-scoring record but he is far too overhyped. Commentators and fans alike seem to have such anticipation when Rooney has the ball even though he usually ends up losing it attempting passes that just aren't on.

Good player, not a great one.

Not disagreeing about that, but if u look at the stats, he had his best season for United last season, but peeps r saying he isnt playing well. If thats the case, he has never played well for any period of time.

You judge players on stats? :rolleyes:

I watch 90 minutes of every United game and form an opinion from observation.
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It'sREDinRussia
Sep 26 2008, 08:11 PM
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Sep 26 2008, 07:59 PM
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Sep 26 2008, 07:54 PM
RetardedDwarf
Sep 26 2008, 07:47 PM
If i remember rightly, Rooneys scoring rate last season was the highest he has ever had. 42 games and 18 goals. Thats 1 goal every 2.33 games. He has never been a 30+ a season player, but even with everybody saying how badly he is playing, still think his 2.33 sr was the best season he has had.

Not a bad goal-scoring record but he is far too overhyped. Commentators and fans alike seem to have such anticipation when Rooney has the ball even though he usually ends up losing it attempting passes that just aren't on.

Good player, not a great one.

Not disagreeing about that, but if u look at the stats, he had his best season for United last season, but peeps r saying he isnt playing well. If thats the case, he has never played well for any period of time.

You judge players on stats? :rolleyes:

I watch 90 minutes of every United game and form an opinion from observation.

from your armchair :lol:
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Sep 26 2008, 07:10 PM
when he was playing off Berb in as a 2nd striker he was fine.

After United scored, he wasn't the one sitting back, he was the one having to come deeper to get the ball. (But he still causing Chelsea problems).

now is that him being poor, or the support being poor?

rooney had no reason to drop deeper, he is just too stupid to do his job... he plays like kids do in the playground... his job is to get the ball in the final 3rd and create or score...

cause chelsea problems? only time he did that was when he gave away a needless freekick and they had to decide how best to score it
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