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Topic Started: Sep 26 2008, 04:59 PM (801 Views)
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i genuinely think you watch a different game to the majority of United supporters.
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Sep 26 2008, 08:13 PM
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Sep 26 2008, 07:59 PM
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Sep 26 2008, 07:47 PM
If i remember rightly, Rooneys scoring rate last season was the highest he has ever had. 42 games and 18 goals. Thats 1 goal every 2.33 games. He has never been a 30+ a season player, but even with everybody saying how badly he is playing, still think his 2.33 sr was the best season he has had.

Not a bad goal-scoring record but he is far too overhyped. Commentators and fans alike seem to have such anticipation when Rooney has the ball even though he usually ends up losing it attempting passes that just aren't on.

Good player, not a great one.

Not disagreeing about that, but if u look at the stats, he had his best season for United last season, but peeps r saying he isnt playing well. If thats the case, he has never played well for any period of time.

You judge players on stats? :rolleyes:

I watch 90 minutes of every United game and form an opinion from observation.

from your armchair :lol:

80% of the time, and you?
Simmer...
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azward
Sep 26 2008, 07:17 PM
i genuinely think you watch a different game to the majority of United supporters.

maybe bc i am not english (although technically i am) and can judge him without bias

dont get me wrong i have been one of his biggest fans in recent years but it is getting to the point where his lack of a footballing brain can't be excused any longer... at the top level hard work and the odd killer pass is not enough if you want to be the best
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Sep 26 2008, 08:19 PM
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Sep 26 2008, 08:13 PM
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Sep 26 2008, 08:11 PM
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Sep 26 2008, 07:59 PM
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Sep 26 2008, 07:54 PM
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Sep 26 2008, 07:47 PM
If i remember rightly, Rooneys scoring rate last season was the highest he has ever had. 42 games and 18 goals. Thats 1 goal every 2.33 games. He has never been a 30+ a season player, but even with everybody saying how badly he is playing, still think his 2.33 sr was the best season he has had.

Not a bad goal-scoring record but he is far too overhyped. Commentators and fans alike seem to have such anticipation when Rooney has the ball even though he usually ends up losing it attempting passes that just aren't on.

Good player, not a great one.

Not disagreeing about that, but if u look at the stats, he had his best season for United last season, but peeps r saying he isnt playing well. If thats the case, he has never played well for any period of time.

You judge players on stats? :rolleyes:

I watch 90 minutes of every United game and form an opinion from observation.

from your armchair :lol:

80% of the time, and you?

I don't base my opinion just on observation, stats play their part. It also helps not to expect every player is gonna be maradona
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ok, so you question my integrity as well?

i'm not being biased, rooney has been stuck out wide and been more huff than ronald out there, no question.

but centrally, you highlight his fouls (when in truth a lot of United players were penalised ifor fouls) but fail to detail his linking with Berbs in a new partnership, his willingness to create space and options with his runs and his ability to create and bring players into the game with his passing.

For you, glass is half empty when Rooney is concerned. You seem more interested in pointing out the worst traits than his strong points, no matter how effective his display.

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azward
Sep 26 2008, 07:26 PM
ok, so you question my integrity as well?

i'm not being biased, rooney has been stuck out wide and been more huff than ronald out there, no question.

but centrally, you highlight his fouls (when in truth a lot of United players were penalised ifor fouls) but fail to detail his linking with Berbs in a new partnership, his willingness to create space and options with his runs and his ability to create and bring players into the game with his passing.

For you, glass is half empty when Rooney is concerned.  You seem more interested in pointing out the worst traits than his strong points, no matter how effective his display.

more huff? i dont know what that means...

and rooney in every game for us this season has given the ball away more than he has kept it and has had more passes go astray than he has find their target... this is not playing well... your only real defence is that he has been as poor as the rest of the team?
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The only reason Rooney isn't rated higher by some is because he is English.
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makethat10
Sep 26 2008, 07:29 PM
The only reason Rooney isn't rated higher by some is because he is English.

:rofl:

are you fricken kidding!

english players get way more overhyped than any other nationality... WAY WAY WAY MORE!
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Sep 26 2008, 07:47 PM
If i remember rightly, Rooneys scoring rate last season was the highest he has ever had. 42 games and 18 goals. Thats 1 goal every 2.33 games. He has never been a 30+ a season player, but even with everybody saying how badly he is playing, still think his 2.33 sr was the best season he has had.

Not a bad goal-scoring record but he is far too overhyped. Commentators and fans alike seem to have such anticipation when Rooney has the ball even though he usually ends up losing it attempting passes that just aren't on.

Good player, not a great one.

Not disagreeing about that, but if u look at the stats, he had his best season for United last season, but peeps r saying he isnt playing well. If thats the case, he has never played well for any period of time.

You judge players on stats? :rolleyes:

I watch 90 minutes of every United game and form an opinion from observation.

from your armchair :lol:

80% of the time, and you?

I don't base my opinion just on observation, stats play their part. It also helps not to expect every player is gonna be maradona

Of course statistics are useful but they don't tell the full story, you cannot base judgments on misleading statistics, and statistics that only make up PART of the game we love. Observation should be the main source of judgment.
And what does watching from an armchair have to do with anything?

I can only afford 3-4 games this season, single ticket prices are ridiculous.
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Yes I know that. When he first came about there was loads of hype. When you're playing well for England you're one of the world's best...when you're not you're overrated. If he wasn't English he'd be rated higher imo.
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Sep 26 2008, 07:32 PM
Yes I know that. When he first came about there was loads of hype. When you're playing well for England you're one of the world's best...when you're not you're overrated. If he wasn't English he'd be rated higher imo.

oh so you think bc he hasnt played well he is underrated... lmao

rooney is deffo overrated
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Sep 26 2008, 07:32 PM
Yes I know that. When he first came about there was loads of hype. When you're playing well for England you're one of the world's best...when you're not you're overrated. If he wasn't English he'd be rated higher imo.

agree. ebglish players are hyped by english press, just to bring them crashing down in the event of a sniff of failure.
but on a global scale, english players aren't rated as high as foriegn counterparts.
Imbrahimovic is a classic example for me of this.
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Sep 26 2008, 07:36 PM
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Sep 26 2008, 07:32 PM
Yes I know that. When he first came about there was loads of hype. When you're playing well for England you're one of the world's best...when you're not you're overrated. If he wasn't English he'd be rated higher imo.

agree. ebglish players are hyped by english press, just to bring them crashing down in the event of a sniff of failure.
but on a global scale, english players aren't rated as high as foriegn counterparts.
Imbrahimovic is a classic example for me of this.

thats bc english players are nowhere near as good as the english media make out which accounts for their continuos failure at international level
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Sep 26 2008, 07:39 PM
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Sep 26 2008, 07:36 PM
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Sep 26 2008, 07:32 PM
Yes I know that. When he first came about there was loads of hype. When you're playing well for England you're one of the world's best...when you're not you're overrated. If he wasn't English he'd be rated higher imo.

agree. ebglish players are hyped by english press, just to bring them crashing down in the event of a sniff of failure.
but on a global scale, english players aren't rated as high as foriegn counterparts.
Imbrahimovic is a classic example for me of this.

thats bc english players are nowhere near as good as the english media make out which accounts for their continuos failure at international level

yes.

Gerrard, Lampard, Rooney, Rio, Cole, Terry all poor players.

absolutely nothing to do with a manager not playing them as a team, playing them out of position, naivety in tactics etc...


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Sep 26 2008, 08:31 PM
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Sep 26 2008, 07:47 PM
If i remember rightly, Rooneys scoring rate last season was the highest he has ever had. 42 games and 18 goals. Thats 1 goal every 2.33 games. He has never been a 30+ a season player, but even with everybody saying how badly he is playing, still think his 2.33 sr was the best season he has had.

Not a bad goal-scoring record but he is far too overhyped. Commentators and fans alike seem to have such anticipation when Rooney has the ball even though he usually ends up losing it attempting passes that just aren't on.

Good player, not a great one.

Not disagreeing about that, but if u look at the stats, he had his best season for United last season, but peeps r saying he isnt playing well. If thats the case, he has never played well for any period of time.

You judge players on stats? :rolleyes:

I watch 90 minutes of every United game and form an opinion from observation.

from your armchair :lol:

80% of the time, and you?

I don't base my opinion just on observation, stats play their part. It also helps not to expect every player is gonna be maradona

Of course statistics are useful but they don't tell the full story, you cannot base judgments on misleading statistics, and statistics that only make up PART of the game we love. Observation should be the main source of judgment.
And what does watching from an armchair have to do with anything?

I can only afford 3-4 games this season, single ticket prices are ridiculous.

It was your...

You judge players on stats :rolleyes:

remark when you know thats not what he was saying. RD was giving one aspect of how Rooney's game hasn't necessarily deteriorated.

If Rooney converted most of his chances and scored 25 goals a season I don't think none of us would be having this discussion. But at the same time you got to look at how he benefits other players in the team and I wonder why that doesn't come into your observation? How many goals does Scholes score these days, but he plays an important part in bringing other players in.
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