| Greetings and welcome to The Football Net. We love talking balls, do you? You're currently viewing our forum as a guest. Therefore you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use. If you join our community, you'll be able to access member-only sections, take part in the banter, vote in polls and enjoy fun competitions such as fantasy football and the betting exchange. Registration is simple, fast, and completely free. Join us today on our football forums to talk balls with us! If you're already a member please log in to your account to access all of our features: |
| Best player at your club so far | |
|---|---|
| Tweet Topic Started: Dec 7 2008, 02:03 AM (849 Views) | |
| Jeffers | Dec 8 2008, 07:31 PM Post #76 |
|
Ginger Prince
|
IMO fergie sees the midfeild when scholes goes as Carrick plus anderson/hargreaves |
| "I don't play against a particular team. I play against the idea of losing." - Cantona | |
|
|
| Monty | Dec 8 2008, 07:32 PM Post #77 |
![]()
I'm a naughty boy
|
But why single out Carrick for being a huge factor in our title wins? Obviously we improved on him, but we certainly could have done better than Carrick. |
|
|
| TheReturnOfTheKing | Dec 8 2008, 07:33 PM Post #78 |
|
Definitely NOT a Terrorist
|
90 percent of scholes passes are to the back 4 or just across to the winger so they do the work of creating chances..... similar with carrick. what you need to look at is chances created per game becuase that is carricks role to create chances form the middle Minutes per chance created Francesc Fabregas 25.5 Steven Gerrard 27.3 Ryan Giggs 30.6 Nani 30.7 Florent Malouda 31.8 Chances created per game Francesc Fabregas 3.50 Steven Gerrard 3.06 Mikel Arteta 2.54 David Bentley 2.43 Ryan Giggs 2.35 as you can see this is last season but the best creative players last season were in that order |
| no | |
|
|
| treble | Dec 8 2008, 07:38 PM Post #79 |
![]()
The Chosen Juan
|
But DIP Michael Carrick's role in midfield is not as those other midfielders, so his other passes have to be taken into account because his game is also about breaking up play, defensive role, and playing the simple pass sometimes for someone else to start the move again, not just him... |
| |
|
|
| TheReturnOfTheKing | Dec 8 2008, 07:40 PM Post #80 |
|
Definitely NOT a Terrorist
|
its KIP HOW WOULD YOU LIKE IT IF IT CALLED YOU FEBLE? anyway i agree but pass accuracy doesnt tell much since most passes are defensive ones or to buuld up play to a winger or defender. carrick needs to be like alonso of this season to be considered better than good this season.....thats his role, very similar to his. carrick is a good player but for me hargreaves over him all the time |
| no | |
|
|
| treble | Dec 8 2008, 07:45 PM Post #81 |
![]()
The Chosen Juan
|
I can't keep up with your name changes. Are you having some sort of identity crisis or what Well I think Carrick does Alonso's role pretty well. The trouble is (and this isn't aimed at you) that even Alonso has his critics the moment things go wrong for Liverpool and ppl seem to forget his injuries etc in the past and laid into him too. I've heard plenty of Liverpool fans in the past saying they could do better than Alonso. The same thing is happening with Carrick. I don't know if you've been reading my posts on previous pages but I do see Carrick and Alonso as very similar in the sense they need a player who can provide a more attacking or experienced role next to them otherwise it's too much to rely on Carrick or Alonso to make up for the loss of (or take on the duties of) players like Scholes or Gerrard in addition to their usual roles. |
| |
|
|
| TheReturnOfTheKing | Dec 8 2008, 07:48 PM Post #82 |
|
Definitely NOT a Terrorist
|
fair point but alonso has stepped up to the next level this season, for me for carrick to be good enough as a first 11 at united he needs to do this too |
| no | |
|
|
| treble | Dec 8 2008, 07:50 PM Post #83 |
![]()
The Chosen Juan
|
I agree, but he still needs someone who can take on Scholes or Hargreaves role next to him. This has to be Anderson for now (or until we buy someone in Jan but looking unlikely cos of what fergie said). |
| |
|
|
| TheReturnOfTheKing | Dec 8 2008, 07:51 PM Post #84 |
|
Definitely NOT a Terrorist
|
i just dont see how united can afford it they just bought berba for 30m and they seem to be having a budget of like 30m per season now. |
| no | |
|
|
| treble | Dec 8 2008, 07:57 PM Post #85 |
![]()
The Chosen Juan
|
Yeah I don't see it either KIP. Anderson has been fantastic but we need some goals from midfield and he has to be one of those along with the likes of Nani, Park, and even Carrick to be contributing. Anderson has been very good, a ball winner, a good passer, but he now needs to take it to next level and do things like Gerrard and Scholes imo. A bit soon to be asking for this perhaps but IF that is to be the partnership in the middle then Carrick needs that from Anderson. |
| |
|
|
| TheReturnOfTheKing | Dec 8 2008, 07:58 PM Post #86 |
|
Definitely NOT a Terrorist
|
it is too soon, i said it before anderson can become the new gerrard. remember at 21 gerrard, lampard and ballack were worse than anderson..... still i just hate carrick lol |
| no | |
|
|
| SuarezWasNotRacist | Dec 8 2008, 07:58 PM Post #87 |
![]()
monty's bitch
|
That's not necessarily true. Giggs and Nani played less games than the likes of Gerrard and would have created less chances in less time, hence a better ratio. It's like saying Kieran Richardson is one of the best goalscorers for England because he scored 2 goals in like 2 games. |
Man Utd's 2017/18 club sponsors:
| |
|
|
| flak | Dec 8 2008, 10:34 PM Post #88 |
|
It's nearly Christmas
|
Anderson has no composure in front of goal what-so-ever. The only thing that bugs me about Carrick is that he can run with the ball but he doesn't do it often enough or shoot often enough for my liking. Most of his shots are pretty good when he does decide to shoot... |
| |
|
|
| treble | Dec 8 2008, 10:39 PM Post #89 |
![]()
The Chosen Juan
|
I think that will come for Anderson but until then it will put more pressure on Carrick imo. Did Keane tho, not really he wasn't prolific either and when he did he was pretty good too (except the later years). What about the likes of Nani, Park, Fletcher (who was scoring before injury) and even Giggs need to chip in (as well as Anderson). |
| |
|
|
| flak | Dec 8 2008, 10:49 PM Post #90 |
|
It's nearly Christmas
|
Anderson's shortcomings shouldn't be placed on Carrick though. ![]() Nani's not played much, Park should have a couple but he seems to be a foot away from every cross that goes in.
|
| |
|
|
| 1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous) | |
| Go to Next Page | |
| « Previous Topic · Barclays Premier League · Next Topic » |










1:51 AM Jul 11