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Wenger on Denilson
Topic Started: Jan 23 2009, 09:41 PM (253 Views)
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Wenger on Denilson:
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"I am surprised by two things - by how well he has done and how little credit he gets from the media," said Wenger at his pre-match press conference.

"I don't think many people have gone down and deeply analysed his game. If you analyse it a little bit in a deeper way, that means the ground he covers, how much ball he wins, how quickly he passes the ball, where his balls go, you will be quite surprised.

"But he is a player who doesn't attract too much limelight because he is discreet, doesn't talk and does his job. That's what I prefer.

"He's a very hungry player and he is 20 years old, plays every game under a lot of pressure and I have never seen him in one training session be a little bit within himself. He always gives you 100 per cent."


I agree wholeheartedly with Wenger. Denilson is a player you can trust to go out there and be a warrior for you. He doesn't complain if he is played out of position or things are going against us, he just gets on with it and bullocks himself every match. Playing him as a strict holding player will not necessarily improve him defensively. If you restrict his attacking play, it could have a negative affect on him defensively and attacking. He needs to be given full freedom and responsibility on the pitch. Denilson is a very smart player and he knows he must do his fair share of defending. He doesn't need to have shackles put on his attacking play to achieve that. Denilson's attacking play is so underrated here. He always makes something happen when he is near the area, whether it be a good pass or a nice off the ball run. That has disappeared over the last month or so, and its Wenger's doing, though Cesc deserves some of the blame too.
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100% agree with Wenger. I think he has been great this season with practically no praise from most.
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There is still much more to come from him too...
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"Where his balls go". :rofl:

Does he really win that many balls? When i've seen Arsenal this season the opposition just seem to play right through the centre of them and there's nobody there to help the defence out. :S
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agree with you flak...i think he has been average at best..he can pick a good pass but thats about it
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He does intercept alot of passes and he does tackle but he isn't a DM he is better going forward than defending.

Average at best? :rofl: Thanks for proving Wengers point. ;)
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hes a good player but cant see him bein first team at arsenal in the future unless he can improve his defensive game
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average at best...can we stop these sort of comments. :rolleyes:

Average for what, a pro footballer in England?(by mean average that would be championship/1st division player) or by Premier League means that he would be borderline squad player in Arsenal (which he isn't, he is above that)

He is a good player, whether he is good enough for Arsenal should be your debate.
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Yes, he's a very good player, the lad needs to bulk up a bit tho.
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hes a good player but cant see him bein first team at arsenal in the future unless he can improve his defensive game
I believe Wenger went into the season with the idea of giving Denilson full freedom, which is evident in his preseason/early season performances. But when Cesc came back, for what ever reason (either laziness, sulking because Flamini/Hleb were gone, tiredness, or poor form) Cesc was not doing his share defensively and Denilson had to carry him. Wenger then gave Denilson a holding role in an effort to get more out of Cesc, improve team defending, and improve Denilson as a defender. Not only does restricitng Denilson take away from his attacking play, but it can make his defending worse. If you give him full freedom he will naturally defend, but Wenger is trying to fast track this process. Once Denilson earns Wenger's full trust, we will see a player who expresses himself more and is much more productive.

I can't wait to see Cesc and Denilson in the middle next season.
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no he didnt

wenger didnt rate denilson enough for the first 11, proven by the fact he tried to sign alonso and that inler guy (wenger recently said he tried to buy him in the summer)
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Wenger clearly rates Denilson, but I don't think he expected Denilson to step up, he is only 20 remember. But in pre season he was our best player so I think Wenger didn't pay the extra few million for Alonso because he wanted to promote Denilson, a player with a higher ceiling...
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higher ceiling?

wenger couldnt afford alonso which is why he didnt get him in the end

he couldnt afford inler so he was LEFT with denilson....

you can see how different arsenal would of been if they did get one of those players...
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We didn't get Inler for differrent reasons. Steve Stammers said Inler did something to "put off the Arsenal board." Also, after watching Inler more and more, he is really similar to Denilson, but a bit older.

And yes, Denilson does have a higher ceiling than Alonso. No question about that...
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i dont understand the last line....please explain in a bit more detail, i hope you are not saying what i think you are
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