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Redknapp v Zola, a lesson in motivation
Topic Started: Jan 24 2009, 06:55 PM (160 Views)
Hammer Jake
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Admittedly I nicked this from a West Ham forum, but I completely agree with it. Super post:

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There are two English strikers in their mid-20s - Carlton Cole and Darren Bent - different in playing style, but with a lot in common all the same. Both appear to have massive potential. Both occasionally look like making the breakthrough to top class. Both consistently disappoint. In the early part of the season, both are their club's top scorers, and then, all-too predictably, both go through a long, lean spell. Their confidence flags. They miss sitters that would make a huge difference to their clubs' fortunes. Cole scuffs his shot when one-on-one with Cech against Chelsea. Bent puts an easy header wide against Pompey.

So how do their managers react? Gianfranco Zola says that he and his team are going to work extra hard on Cole's finishing. But he praises the work Cole does for the team, and keeps picking him. Result? Cole gets hi confidence back, slowly at first but gaining visibly with every match, and gets five goals in five games. Now people are talking about an England call up. How does Zola react? He mentions the hard work that has been done by the coaching team but above all he praises the hard work and ability of the player himself. Quote: "A lot is down to the fact that he believes in himself more. Now it has got to a point in his life where he's 26 and more mature. The experience he has had has made him stronger and I believe he likes working with us ... It's not really down to me or Steve Clarke, it just down to him. He's got qualities and he's just learning how to use them and so I'm very pleased to say that it's him that is making the difference.'

Carlton Cole must feel on top of the world when his boss says that, particularly when it's a man he's respected since they played together at Chelsea. And we've got a player who's becoming one of the absolute keys to our team.

Meanwhile, here's Redknapp on Bent: 'Even my missus Sandra could have scored that one! How the f*****g hell did he miss that one? You will never get a better chance to win a game. Even David James had given up on it and was walking backwards into his own net. Bent didn’t only have part of the goal to aim for but the entire net... and he puts it wide. Unbelievable.'

Since he said those words, Redknapp has been trying to weasel out of them, like a dodgy politician. But the fact is, he slagged off his own player in public, when Rule One of successful management is that you keep criticism of individual players inside the dressing-room. Yes, Bent's miss was atrocious. But somehow, I think he knows that without having to hear his manager jam tart him off for it.

So now Redknapp's got a dejected, demoralized player who must have precious little respect for him. And he's reduced to denying that he wants to buy Carlton Cole.

Makes me glad we have Zola ...

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Yes. Bung Harry's credential as a motivator are wholly based on this incident.

He has never lifted Portsmouth to a position over and above there sum of abilities, won the FA Cup or in fact saved WHU ass on more than one occasion.

On the other hand, Zola has been a manager for 23.3 seconds and is the master at motivation, raising Carlton Cole from incredibly shite to just bloody awful. Bravo.

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azward
Jan 24 2009, 07:08 PM
Yes. Bung Harry's credential as a motivator are wholly based on this incident.

He has never lifted Portsmouth to a position over and above there sum of abilities, won the FA Cup or in fact saved WHU ass on more than one occasion.

On the other hand, Zola has been a manager for 23.3 seconds and is the master at motivation, raising Carlton Cole from incredibly shite to just bloody awful. Bravo.

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typical az, always bursting kiddies balloons :)
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apologies for stating some truths... :p
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azward
Jan 24 2009, 07:08 PM
Yes. Bung Harry's credential as a motivator are wholly based on this incident.

He has never lifted Portsmouth to a position over and above there sum of abilities, won the FA Cup or in fact saved WHU ass on more than one occasion.

On the other hand, Zola has been a manager for 23.3 seconds and is the master at motivation, raising Carlton Cole from incredibly shite to just bloody awful. Bravo.

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LOL, fantastic, but jokes aside, Carlton Cole is vastly underrated, Zola is doing well and Redknapp's comments on Bent were pathetic.
Simmer...
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azward
Jan 24 2009, 07:08 PM
Yes. Bung Harry's credential as a motivator are wholly based on this incident.

He has never lifted Portsmouth to a position over and above there sum of abilities, won the FA Cup or in fact saved WHU ass on more than one occasion.

On the other hand, Zola has been a manager for 23.3 seconds and is the master at motivation, raising Carlton Cole from incredibly shite to just bloody awful. Bravo.

:p
I fail to see where I was slagging off that saggy faced sausage as a motivator overall, as you pointed out, I am referring to just this incident.

Saved our "ass", when? Whilst there was some good times with him in charge, we didn't do anything of specific note and the way he's conducted himself after leaving has been disgraceful.

As for Carlton, I think scoring 5 goals in 6 games does deserve a "bravo".

Funny how Redknapp constantly put out sound bites into the media saying how he was interested in Bellamy despite the fact that we had said he was not for sale. Redknapp went as far to say as he had heard that Bellamy wanted to join Tottenham in the hope of forcing our hand and unsettle the player further. It makes me laugh because all they did in the summer was cry and whinge about how unjust and what a mercenary Berbatov was for daring to join the biggest club in the world yet he's constant public courting of numerous players this January has been an absolute embarrassment and made few friends in the Premier League as seen by the likes of Middlesbrough and Sunderland publicly criticising.

Probably the funniest thing is how people get sucked into typical Redknapp bullshit and spin about injuries. Of course saggy face bung master takes no blame, it's all about the "mish-mash" he was left with. Forget the fact that there was actually only one real injury when playing against Portsmouth (which was Hutton) and the majority of the league are suffering considerably more on that front. Few teams could field a £16 mill striker and £16 mill midfielder on the bench but let's blame it on a striker who already has no confidence in him whatsoever.

Oh and it's well known that we rejected an £8m bid for Carlton Cole from that guy you seem to rate so highly, good 'ol Harry. :rolleyes:
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It was a terrible thing to say about Bent in public and wont have done him any good but maybe Redknapp thought it would give him the kick up the arse that he needed or else he doesn't really want him there. There's talks of a swap deal between Bent and Kenwyne Jones although it sounds like fantasy stuff to me.

As for Zola, he's still got a lot to prove whereas Redknapp has proven himself time and again.
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Hammer Jake
Jan 24 2009, 09:18 PM
azward
Jan 24 2009, 07:08 PM
Yes. Bung Harry's credential as a motivator are wholly based on this incident.

He has never lifted Portsmouth to a position over and above there sum of abilities, won the FA Cup or in fact saved WHU ass on more than one occasion.

On the other hand, Zola has been a manager for 23.3 seconds and is the master at motivation, raising Carlton Cole from incredibly shite to just bloody awful. Bravo.

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I fail to see where I was slagging off that saggy faced sausage as a motivator overall, as you pointed out, I am referring to just this incident.

Saved our "ass", when? Whilst there was some good times with him in charge, we didn't do anything of specific note and the way he's conducted himself after leaving has been disgraceful.

As for Carlton, I think scoring 5 goals in 6 games does deserve a "bravo".

Funny how Redknapp constantly put out sound bites into the media saying how he was interested in Bellamy despite the fact that we had said he was not for sale. Redknapp went as far to say as he had heard that Bellamy wanted to join Tottenham in the hope of forcing our hand and unsettle the player further. It makes me laugh because all they did in the summer was cry and whinge about how unjust and what a mercenary Berbatov was for daring to join the biggest club in the world yet he's constant public courting of numerous players this January has been an absolute embarrassment and made few friends in the Premier League as seen by the likes of Middlesbrough and Sunderland publicly criticising.

Probably the funniest thing is how people get sucked into typical Redknapp bullshit and spin about injuries. Of course saggy face bung master takes no blame, it's all about the "mish-mash" he was left with. Forget the fact that there was actually only one real injury when playing against Portsmouth (which was Hutton) and the majority of the league are suffering considerably more on that front. Few teams could field a £16 mill striker and £16 mill midfielder on the bench but let's blame it on a striker who already has no confidence in him whatsoever.

Oh and it's well known that we rejected an £8m bid for Carlton Cole from that guy you seem to rate so highly, good 'ol Harry. :rolleyes:
agreed fully mate, here is what i said on harry earlier

"m getting fookin sick of football clubs showing interest in players and unsettling them such as Spurs. In the last two seasons they've unsettled Bentley at Blackburn, Defoe at Pompey, Bellamy at West Ham and are trying to unsettle Jones at Sunderland and it's a disgrace to football that Spurs show their interest to the public.

on top of this when fergy and rafa didnt declare their interest to berba and keane to the media, their chairman still threw a hissy fit and ran to the fa.

harry redknapp is the king of such things, he does it over and over, every other day harry redknapp is mentioning player who other clubs, who have told him are not for sale he did it at portsmouth and he doing it now, managers should refuse to comment on reports except to deny out of respect for the other club and only discuss the player if a bid has been accepted.!

just to add to this, redknapp AGAIN declared to the media he has bid for jones...
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Hammer Jake
Jan 24 2009, 09:18 PM
azward
Jan 24 2009, 07:08 PM
Yes. Bung Harry's credential as a motivator are wholly based on this incident.

He has never lifted Portsmouth to a position over and above there sum of abilities, won the FA Cup or in fact saved WHU ass on more than one occasion.

On the other hand, Zola has been a manager for 23.3 seconds and is the master at motivation, raising Carlton Cole from incredibly shite to just bloody awful. Bravo.

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I fail to see where I was slagging off that saggy faced sausage as a motivator overall, as you pointed out, I am referring to just this incident.

Saved our "ass", when? Whilst there was some good times with him in charge, we didn't do anything of specific note and the way he's conducted himself after leaving has been disgraceful.

As for Carlton, I think scoring 5 goals in 6 games does deserve a "bravo".

Funny how Redknapp constantly put out sound bites into the media saying how he was interested in Bellamy despite the fact that we had said he was not for sale. Redknapp went as far to say as he had heard that Bellamy wanted to join Tottenham in the hope of forcing our hand and unsettle the player further. It makes me laugh because all they did in the summer was cry and whinge about how unjust and what a mercenary Berbatov was for daring to join the biggest club in the world yet he's constant public courting of numerous players this January has been an absolute embarrassment and made few friends in the Premier League as seen by the likes of Middlesbrough and Sunderland publicly criticising.

Probably the funniest thing is how people get sucked into typical Redknapp bullshit and spin about injuries. Of course saggy face bung master takes no blame, it's all about the "mish-mash" he was left with. Forget the fact that there was actually only one real injury when playing against Portsmouth (which was Hutton) and the majority of the league are suffering considerably more on that front. Few teams could field a £16 mill striker and £16 mill midfielder on the bench but let's blame it on a striker who already has no confidence in him whatsoever.

Oh and it's well known that we rejected an £8m bid for Carlton Cole from that guy you seem to rate so highly, good 'ol Harry. :rolleyes:
:lol:

Who said you were slagging off Redknapp? :unsure:

I'm nowhere near a Bung Harry fan (as documented on here several times) but fact is fact...WHU had their best seasons in the Prem under him and his record superceeds Zola, basically 'cos Zola is new to it all.

(P.S. Carlton Cole....45 games, 13 goals....bravo.... :p )



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redknapps 7 step strategy...

1. Complain about current squad in the media (i.e. we have no players, who assembled this lot etc etc )
2. Inform the media the names of the players you would be interested in signing
3. Unsettle said players leading to them handing in transfer requests using the media
4. Spend, spend, spend
5. Complain that the current squad is lacking in numbers
6. Spend, spend, spend
7. Leave club in financial mess for better opportunity.
8. or if step 7 is not achieved, get them relegated and then run off
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:lol: I never noticed that he did this whole declaring who he wants in public at his other clubs. Anyway, it seems to be a good strategy because it's working so far...not very good for your relationship with other clubs but I doubt he cares about that.
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redknapps 7 step strategy...

1. Complain about current squad in the media (i.e. we have no players, who assembled this lot etc etc )
2. Inform the media the names of the players you would be interested in signing
3. Unsettle said players leading to them handing in transfer requests using the media
4. Spend, spend, spend
5. Complain that the current squad is lacking in numbers
6. Spend, spend, spend
7. Leave club in financial mess for better opportunity.
8. or if step 7 is not achieved, get them relegated and then run off
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a tad harsh!
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U also have to remember that both Zola and Clarkey know Cole very well from the Bridge days. Clarkey will know what works with the guy and what doesnt. Clarke is a master at keeping players heads up, and I really believe that him leaving is part of the reason for Chelseas slump this season. Another mistake by Kenyon in the way they treated Clarke...............Chelsea through and through and they treated him so badly.
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