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Wolves vs Liverpool
Topic Started: Jan 25 2010, 08:10 PM (1,850 Views)
stacie
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Dipped in chocolate, bronzed with elegance
Papa_Lazarou
Jan 26 2010, 10:45 PM
Did we even get a shot on target? I can't remember one :S
3 on, 3 off
flak and gary love stacie and weep sorrowful tears when she's not around

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Seriously, without trying to go on about rafa, if anyone back this guy and think he is the man for us then they are an idiot. Opposition fans laugh at us and are begging us to keep him, it will cost up alot to get rid of him but he has to go now
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stacie
Jan 26 2010, 10:47 PM
CROUCH15GOD
Jan 26 2010, 10:44 PM
I might get out of bed for a while now lol, will need to cry mysefl to sleep in a while though
:hugs: you can have a sympathy fondle if you want x
I would choose that over the win tbh, your that good :D
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stacie
Jan 26 2010, 10:47 PM
Papa_Lazarou
Jan 26 2010, 10:45 PM
Did we even get a shot on target? I can't remember one :S
3 on, 3 off
3 on target?? :blink:

They're not including freekicks that were caught by the keeper but would have gone in if he missed them are they? :lol:
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I didnt see one shot on target
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i don't remember one on target but that's what the BBC says. Wait, engogg had one dint he :S
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Reira had one at the start of the second-half that was tipped over - that's all I can remember.
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thats the only reason i aint posting, its hard without having a go at rafa and lucas imo

playing 2 dm against wolves, no playmaker. thats the reason we been losing all season yet he doesnt learn
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so we are 3 games behind city in terms of getting ahead of them with goal difference. basically we got like 10-12 games to get into the top 4

we will lose to city away as well, we wont get a top 4 spot
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LFC19TITLES
Jan 26 2010, 11:13 PM
thats the only reason i aint posting, its hard without having a go at rafa and lucas imo

playing 2 dm against wolves, no playmaker. thats the reason we been losing all season yet he doesnt learn
He doesn't trust Aquilani enough to fill that role yet? :S

It's a strange 'un. I see no Babel again too...
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Jan 26 2010, 11:17 PM
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thats the only reason i aint posting, its hard without having a go at rafa and lucas imo

playing 2 dm against wolves, no playmaker. thats the reason we been losing all season yet he doesnt learn
He doesn't trust Aquilani enough to fill that role yet? :S

It's a strange 'un. I see no Babel again too...
It's nothing to do with trust Flak - AA is not a CM from what I've seen of him. He can play the AM role fairly well but he's way too over-creative for CM - by that I mean he tries umpteen different flicks and tricks but only about 5% seem to work. That's not too bad if he's doing it around their box as an AM but if he does it as a CM we're in trouble.

Gerrard should have been dropped back in and Aquilani put AM but Rafa doesn't like putting Gerrard CM either :lol:
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Jan 26 2010, 11:22 PM
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Jan 26 2010, 11:17 PM
LFC19TITLES
Jan 26 2010, 11:13 PM
thats the only reason i aint posting, its hard without having a go at rafa and lucas imo

playing 2 dm against wolves, no playmaker. thats the reason we been losing all season yet he doesnt learn
He doesn't trust Aquilani enough to fill that role yet? :S

It's a strange 'un. I see no Babel again too...
It's nothing to do with trust Flak - AA is not a CM from what I've seen of him. He can play the AM role fairly well but he's way too over-creative for CM - by that I mean he tries umpteen different flicks and tricks but only about 5% seem to work. That's not too bad if he's doing it around their box as an AM but if he does it as a CM we're in trouble.

Gerrard should have been dropped back in and Aquilani put AM but Rafa doesn't like putting Gerrard CM either :lol:
they are cm papa, they are just not the rafa cm

hell if rafa was in charge of xavi he wouldnt play him in cm, i can promise you that because xavi goes forward quite a bit

rafa just like defensive mids in the cm role, one is fair enough but 2 no way

at least you can see why were are struggling papa, you didnt admit it earlier on the season i think, or wait i think you did. anyway its because of not using a creative player in the middle

all boils down to rafa without trying to sound too anti-rafa but i think its fair, i know the top 4 is out of reach, i thought rafa learned his lesson but he just hasnt, i am afraid the only way is just to get rid of him, 6 seasons he has been here and still he doesnt adapt, he would be good at a low level club playing this type of football. he is just a Spanish fat sam, instead its fat rafa. both hate playmakers in cm, both just want to play ugly football and break things up, then they hoof it

rafa is the sole reason we are struggling
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Jan 26 2010, 11:22 PM
It's nothing to do with trust Flak - AA is not a CM from what I've seen of him. He can play the AM role fairly well but he's way too over-creative for CM - by that I mean he tries umpteen different flicks and tricks but only about 5% seem to work. That's not too bad if he's doing it around their box as an AM but if he does it as a CM we're in trouble.

Gerrard should have been dropped back in and Aquilani put AM but Rafa doesn't like putting Gerrard CM either :lol:
It makes you wonder why he bought him in the first place then. Not Rafa's choice? Panic buy? I dunno but it's no good having a £20m player who sits o nthe bench week after week when the first team could be improved.

I think Rafa's problem is he's too stubborn when something clearly isn't working, he sticks to his guns.
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Jan 26 2010, 11:26 PM
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Jan 26 2010, 11:17 PM
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Jan 26 2010, 11:13 PM
thats the only reason i aint posting, its hard without having a go at rafa and lucas imo

playing 2 dm against wolves, no playmaker. thats the reason we been losing all season yet he doesnt learn
He doesn't trust Aquilani enough to fill that role yet? :S

It's a strange 'un. I see no Babel again too...
It's nothing to do with trust Flak - AA is not a CM from what I've seen of him. He can play the AM role fairly well but he's way too over-creative for CM - by that I mean he tries umpteen different flicks and tricks but only about 5% seem to work. That's not too bad if he's doing it around their box as an AM but if he does it as a CM we're in trouble.

Gerrard should have been dropped back in and Aquilani put AM but Rafa doesn't like putting Gerrard CM either :lol:
they are cm papa, they are just not the rafa cm

at least you can see why were are struggling papa, you didnt admit it earlier on the season i think, or wait i think you did. anyway its because of not using a creative player in the middle
AA just doesn't work well in CM right now. I would trust him far less than Gerrard in there.

I think you'll find I said the same thing right at the start of the season - that we need Gerrard in CM to create something (at that point I said just till AA was fit) but right now I can't see that we have anyone else who can do that job.

It's still not something I'd want to see from the start against anyone top-half though.
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Jan 26 2010, 11:30 PM
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Jan 26 2010, 11:22 PM
It's nothing to do with trust Flak - AA is not a CM from what I've seen of him. He can play the AM role fairly well but he's way too over-creative for CM - by that I mean he tries umpteen different flicks and tricks but only about 5% seem to work. That's not too bad if he's doing it around their box as an AM but if he does it as a CM we're in trouble.

Gerrard should have been dropped back in and Aquilani put AM but Rafa doesn't like putting Gerrard CM either :lol:
It makes you wonder why he bought him in the first place then. Not Rafa's choice? Panic buy? I dunno but it's no good having a £20m player who sits o nthe bench week after week when the first team could be improved.

I think Rafa's problem is he's too stubborn when something clearly isn't working, he sticks to his guns.
your last point is spot on, tbh i think every manager is like that tho

but rafa's ego is holding this club back from the next level, its just a damn shame. what annoyed me is when the pressure is on he uses the fans support to manipulate to his gain. i remember redknapp touching on that, he was spot on
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