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| Aston Villa V Manchester United; Carling Cup Final: 28th Feb 3.00pm | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Feb 26 2010, 10:44 AM (2,134 Views) | |
| Jeffers | Mar 1 2010, 04:27 PM Post #166 |
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my veiw of the penalty was that gabby had actually changed direction before the tackle came in and he was not baring down on goal as much as he had been, the ball was also on his weaker side. still if vidic had not bought him down he would have been 1 on 1 with the keeper, it was a goal scoring opportunity but maybe not a clear one as krusty would have had a pretty high opportunity of closing down the angle and making it very hard for gabby. a defence for the decision but vidic should have at least been given a yellow for this if it was against united id have wanted a red, i was expecting a red and i don't think there could have been any arguments against it being a red |
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| flak | Mar 1 2010, 04:46 PM Post #167 |
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I don't get that article. The first paragraph hints that the referee made the right decision but the rest says that he didn't.
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| TheReturnOfTheKing | Mar 1 2010, 04:57 PM Post #168 |
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Definitely NOT a Terrorist
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he ran at the keeper turned to get ready to get ready to place his shot and because vidic was pulling his shirt no excuses, the man who wrote that article is a fool |
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| footyfan000 | Mar 1 2010, 05:30 PM Post #169 |
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In honesty, I don't think it should have been a penalty. It should've been a free kick outside the box for shirt pulling for the first offence, if we're going to be picky about referees doing everything right like the Daily Mail guy said. Once the referee gives that penalty though, Vidic has to walk. Agbonlahor is in a prime shooting position and its not like he's heading towards the corner flag: he had a perfect angle and worked the ball to one side and would then have hit it across goal. He may not have scored, but it was an absolutely brilliant chance removed by Vidic. Vidic got nothing and Samba got a red card in the last round for the same offence and missed 3 matches for Rovers - the three matches he missed are more important than the match itself and Vidic will not face the same punishment. Atrocious stuff. Didn't see most of the match but that decision would inevitably have had a major impact on the game. |
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| Dotty | Mar 1 2010, 07:42 PM Post #170 |
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It was Graham Poll, just read his other articles. He claims that Shawcross set out to intentionally injure Ramsey in one of them.
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| Inglorious BarcaTed | Mar 1 2010, 07:56 PM Post #171 |
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I'm surprised at Can7ona for posting that. This is a ref who produced 3 yellow cards for a player in a World Cup ffs
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| TheReturnOfTheKing | Mar 1 2010, 07:57 PM Post #172 |
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didnt he do it twice he made two huge errors in 2 big competitions didnt he |
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| Inglorious BarcaTed | Mar 1 2010, 07:59 PM Post #173 |
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he's the last person on the planet that should be explaining the rules of the game
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| stacie | Mar 1 2010, 09:05 PM Post #174 |
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I'm gonna have to use my memory but wasn't The Whore still heading in the direction of the goal? I do recall him pausing, but I also recall Vidic's carefully placed leg being the thing the Whore tripped on as he was heading towards the goal. Now Vidic was between him and the goal but he was definitely heading towards it ![]() I can kiiinda see what flak's saying, I remember in our CL final when wotsisfaceLehmann got sent off and some people were like 'that's just ruined the game' but at the end of the day the rules are there for a reason. Not sending off a player who should have walked can also ruin a game because it sets up bad feeling for the rest of it. Ref didn't help himself out anyway. |
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| goslow | Mar 1 2010, 09:30 PM Post #175 |
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he was heading for goal until vidic swung him around by his shirt. |
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| The Sicilian | Mar 1 2010, 09:53 PM Post #176 |
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So United were robbed then you lot of bitter forkers? |
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| tebroc | Mar 1 2010, 10:18 PM Post #177 |
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"He was a little inconsistent with his yellow cards but that is no reason to highlight him in his first major final." - understatement of the century ![]() i think some of you dont really understand why most villa fans were so upset about the decision, its wasnt the fact that it wasnt a red, not that at all but when you're the last man and bearing down on goal (you cant tell me he isnt going to shoot if he rides that challenge) and are took out by the player a yellow card should be the very minimum the player should get. even if he gets the yellow it changes vidic's situation for the game, he is then walking on a tightrope where if he gets stuck 1 on 1 again he is really struggling but instead the referee lets him go scot free even though he has seen the incident and has the match experience to know better then that. then to add on top of that we look at the inconsistencies in his decisions, downing and carricks tackles were very similar, one gets a yellow, one goes scot free again. rafael having about 4 last warning for barging and there were other ridiculous decisions made too. naturally we werent the only victims of his inconsistency when united werent awarded the penalty that they probably deserved. mercedes is right, we may not have won the game as playing against united with 10 men isnt as easy as it sounds (as was shown a few weeks back) but at the very least it would have changed the complexion of the game because they would have either had to sacrifice a midfielder or striker to replace the player that had departed. make no mistake about it if this was the case we would have had a far greater chance of success then we did. for the argument of "making it a spectacle" shouldnt vidic be thinking about that too? the ref is there to inforce the rules. no more no less. nobody forced vidic to bring him down, it was his choice and should be made to pay the consequences, whatever they may be. Its also all good and well saying "you win some you lose some" but unlike many of your clubs, this was our first cup final in 10 years, first one we've had a squad capable of competing in 14 and to have an inconsistent ref spoil our chances is not the nicest thing to happen. overall though i cant really begrudge united winning, they were the better team for the 2nd half and did more than we did to get the goals, even if its disappointing for me to admit. sorry, just had to get that off my chest
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| flak | Mar 1 2010, 10:28 PM Post #178 |
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Yep a yellow should have been the least that he got for that tackle. He ended up getting a yellow in the second half so would have been off or wouldn't have been able to make that challenge. I wonder what the referee said to O'Neill when he went over whispering in his ear anyway because it looked like O'Neill accepted whatever he said. Downing's tackle was a bit worse than the Carrick one imo. Rafael only had one warning after two tackles from what I saw. ![]() It'll be the last one for another 10 years as well.
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| TheReturnOfTheKing | Mar 1 2010, 10:30 PM Post #179 |
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Villa were mate, by your 12th man. |
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| The Sicilian | Mar 1 2010, 10:38 PM Post #180 |
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I thought United were robbed by the post being a little bit to much to one side. |
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The first paragraph hints that the referee made the right decision but the rest says that he didn't.








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