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Manchester United v Tottenham; SATURDAY 5;30
Topic Started: Oct 28 2010, 08:54 PM (2,640 Views)
TheReturnOfTheKing
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Oct 30 2010, 07:58 PM
If you two are denying the ref forked up then you are deluded plain and simple lads. Legitimate goal sure, but only because the ref forked up. No idea what there is to argue.
im honestly lost for words for these two clowns :lol:

nobody has made me leave a thread early but these are on the level of dag and cesc :lol:
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What was Keane doing starting that game? Van der Vaart and Crouch have had a good partnership going in recent games, Redknapp really didn't help his team today. Keane should be finished for Spurs now.
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Oct 30 2010, 07:58 PM
If you two are denying the ref forked up then you are deluded plain and simple lads. Legitimate goal sure, but only because the ref forked up. No idea what there is to argue.
Why ask when we've given the reasons? The ref didn't fork up at all, there was no free kick given so you can't blame the ref if play carries on and a playere scores. It's no different to anywhere else on the pitch. No idea what's to argue about that.
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The ref messed up in not giving the handball. Without that, there wouldn't have been a goal.

But the GK messed up because once the ref allowed play to continue, he had to allow the goal because there was nothing actually wrong with it.
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Oct 30 2010, 08:03 PM
The ref messed up in not giving the handball. Without that, there wouldn't have been a goal.

But the GK messed up because once the ref allowed play to continue, he had to allow the goal because there was nothing actually wrong with it.
thank you, i cant believe people cant understand this
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Oct 30 2010, 08:00 PM
What was Keane doing starting that game? Van der Vaart and Crouch have had a good partnership going in recent games, Redknapp really didn't help his team today. Keane should be finished for Spurs now.
TBH Crouch didn't do much for the time he was on. Keane had his moments in the first half, but they weren't many cos Spurs didn't have many moments. Apart from the VDV miss off the bar, the throw in and a couple of bits of play down the wing they didn't cause any trouble.
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Oct 30 2010, 08:04 PM
stacie
Oct 30 2010, 08:03 PM
The ref messed up in not giving the handball. Without that, there wouldn't have been a goal.

But the GK messed up because once the ref allowed play to continue, he had to allow the goal because there was nothing actually wrong with it.
thank you, i cant believe people cant understand this
You forgot to delete stacie's second paragraph there mate, seeing as that's what I've been saying but I'm wrong and biased when I say it :lol:
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Oct 30 2010, 08:05 PM
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Oct 30 2010, 08:00 PM
What was Keane doing starting that game? Van der Vaart and Crouch have had a good partnership going in recent games, Redknapp really didn't help his team today. Keane should be finished for Spurs now.
TBH Crouch didn't do much for the time he was on. Keane had his moments in the first half, but they weren't many cos Spurs didn't have many moments. Apart from the VDV miss off the bar, the throw in and a couple of bits of play down the wing they didn't cause any trouble.
I don't rate Crouch that highly, in general his game is pretty clumsy. But he seems to pop up and cause problems. Wasn't on for long enough though. Without him on, Spurs wingers seemed to want to do more on their own rather than get the ball in the box and wait for Crouch to climb up some player and cause a bit of confusion. I don't see what Keane has to offer them now.
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Oct 30 2010, 08:03 PM
The ref messed up in not giving the handball. Without that, there wouldn't have been a goal.

But the GK messed up because once the ref allowed play to continue, he had to allow the goal because there was nothing actually wrong with it.
He also messed up by not giving the pen before that. He also messed up by not giving the ball out of play instead of awarding a corner to Spuds in the first half. He messed up by not giving the handball against Kaboul. This could go on...but he let play continue and at the end of the day he may have done that having seen the handball or not.
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Oct 30 2010, 08:07 PM
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stacie
Oct 30 2010, 08:00 PM
What was Keane doing starting that game? Van der Vaart and Crouch have had a good partnership going in recent games, Redknapp really didn't help his team today. Keane should be finished for Spurs now.
TBH Crouch didn't do much for the time he was on. Keane had his moments in the first half, but they weren't many cos Spurs didn't have many moments. Apart from the VDV miss off the bar, the throw in and a couple of bits of play down the wing they didn't cause any trouble.
I don't rate Crouch that highly, in general his game is pretty clumsy. But he seems to pop up and cause problems. Wasn't on for long enough though. Without him on, Spurs wingers seemed to want to do more on their own rather than get the ball in the box and wait for Crouch to climb up some player and cause a bit of confusion. I don't see what Keane has to offer them now.
On for 15 mins I think, certainly before we scored the 2nd and I did think "oh crap they will be flooding balls into the box for rest of the game" but it didn't happen. Yeh Keane is going downhill fast, not half the player he was which is a shame cos he was a good player for them. They're also missing Defoe.
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Well, I didn't see any of those incidents, and they're not relevant to the incident where Nani scored. I saw Nani's penalty shout once, it was debatable. The handball however, wasn't. There are probably a good few things the ref got wrong in that match, but none of them allowed a player who had committed a foul to score a goal.
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Oct 30 2010, 08:10 PM
Well, I didn't see any of those incidents, and they're not relevant to the incident where Nani scored. I saw Nani's penalty shout once, it was debatable. The handball however, wasn't. There are probably a good few things the ref got wrong in that match, but none of them allowed a player who had committed a foul to score a goal.
Ofcourse they're relevant, we don't all start moaning about every decision by a ref. The corner given to spurs could easily have resulted in a goal but it didn't so nobody goes on about it. Now the truth was that the linesman and the ref didn't see the ball had gone out for a goal kick and not a corner but then if you want to be pigheaded about it you could go on and on and on about how the ref messed up when in all fairness, for that corner he hadn't. And as I said in my last sentence you don't know why he didn't blow for a free kick. He may have seen it and allowed play to carry on or he may not have seen it and allowed play to carry on. Without knowing that nobody can say he messed up.

Oh and it was a penalty, pulled back and then clipped.
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If he didn't see it, we're probably being harsh and the linesman couldn't help him. But if he did see it, that's even worse :lol: He probably messed up a lot in the game as I said, but that doesn't make a decision to not award a handball if you've seen it any less of a bad one.
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Oct 30 2010, 08:18 PM
If he didn't see it, we're probably being harsh and the linesman couldn't help him. But if he did see it, that's even worse :lol: He probably messed up a lot in the game as I said, but that doesn't make a decision to not award a handball if you've seen it any less of a bad one.
Yeh I agree with you there, and tbf if he did see it and played the advantage he should have made a gesture. It'll be done to death on MOTD so we can analyse it more then :lol:
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I'll be sleeping by then :( Have to watch it in the morning
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