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United ownership thread
Topic Started: Nov 15 2010, 11:42 PM (1,585 Views)
Jeffers
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i just crunched the numbers there LFC, the club is valued at £1.19bn, so i think the glaziers would be looking at £2bn taking into account the debt, they will probably want to make some more profit as well

the way the Quatar Royals will be spending on the world cup is gonna be huge and this would be another step into the footballing world, and most importantly how to run a huge stadium and promote the sport

an extra £250m will be nothing considering once they buy the club they wont have to put their hand in their pockets for players or wages like city or chelsea. they could easily take an extra £25m more than the glaziers each season for the next 20 years to double that investment(this would be profit LFC)

im not saying its happening, but with those figures floating about that's a fairly realistic situation the club could see itself in. it would pretty much end any competition in the premiership
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Jeffers
Jan 7 2011, 12:57 AM
i just crunched the numbers there LFC, the club is valued at £1.19bn, so i think the glaziers would be looking at £2bn taking into account the debt, they will probably want to make some more profit as well

the way the Quatar Royals will be spending on the world cup is gonna be huge and this would be another step into the footballing world, and most importantly how to run a huge stadium and promote the sport

an extra £250m will be nothing considering once they buy the club they wont have to put their hand in their pockets for players or wages like city or chelsea. they could easily take an extra £25m more than the glaziers each season for the next 20 years to double that investment(this would be profit LFC)

im not saying its happening, but with those figures floating about that's a fairly realistic situation the club could see itself in. it would pretty much end any competition in the premiership
who values it at 1.9bn? serious question btw, cant see it worth more than 1bn

its a business with huge debts and making losses each year

look at us, everyone was like we were valued at 500m but in the end nobody was paying more than 300 for us
Edited by TheReturnOfTheKing, Jan 7 2011, 01:00 AM.
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Both companies issued two new shares each on PIK repayment day (22nd November). For both companies, one share has a paid up amount of £31,578,649.41 and the other share £217,525,995.10 for a total of £249,104,664.51 (that is how much was paid for the shares). Crucially, these new shares rank pari passu with the existing shares in each company, that is to say that they have no additional rights that the existing shares do not have. Could the split between two shares (13% and 87%) represent the proportions of the PIKs owned by the Glazers and third parties respectively?


Prior to these share issues, RFJV had 988,183 shares in issue and RFS had 990,002 shares in issue. Given these new shares represent only around 0.0002% of the shares already issued, we can pretty safely conclude that they have not been issued to a third party (who would pay £249m for 0.0002% of United?) and have therefore been issued to a Glazer company. We will know definitively in January or February when the "Annual Returns" are filed at Companies House.


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fair to think it after reading that keano, still find it hard to believe anyone can keep somethng this big under wraps
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can you not read? £1.19bn the price on forbes, I stated £2bn which includes wiping the debt. once the debt is wiped it then gains around £70m extra a year. all of your questions were answered in the post you questioned :lol:

yer liverpool were in the s**t though, unsustainable wage bill, ageing side, out of the CL, no youth realistically coming through(yes pachedo etc.. all have potential but they are/were not being used)

Edited by Jeffers, Jan 7 2011, 01:06 AM.
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Jan 7 2011, 12:50 AM
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Jan 5 2011, 06:45 PM
It would be forkin fantastic if the Qataris bought us. We'd be richer than City :D
Wahoooo then i can complain that you are ruining football! :yahoo:
Moral high ground here i come :lol:
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Jan 7 2011, 01:05 AM
can you not read? £1.19bn the price on forbes, I stated £2bn which includes wiping the debt. once the debt is wiped it then gains around £70m extra a year. all of your questions were answered in the post you questioned :lol:

yer liverpool were in the s**t though, unsustainable wage bill, ageing side, out of the CL, no youth realistically coming through(yes pachedo etc.. all have potential but they are/were not being used)

that 1.2bn includes the debt mate

750m debt and the rest profit for them
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huge debt does not increase value btw...
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surely wiping the debt would increase the value of the club, especially if you include the extra revenue from not having to pay it off :unsure:
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The club is valued between 1 and 1.8bn.
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the club would be bought for £1.19bn(the price it is worth with debt) then the debt written off, the value of the club would then increase without debt and repayments

unless you are saying paying off the debt would make the club less valuable
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Jan 7 2011, 01:08 AM
huge debt does not increase value btw...
:rofl: :rofl: its hilarious that you cannot read
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Jan 7 2011, 01:24 AM
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Jan 7 2011, 01:08 AM
huge debt does not increase value btw...
:rofl: :rofl: its hilarious that you cannot read
you are confused, you did not make sense, just because the debt goes off does not mean that value is then put on top of the current value

forbes dont consider debt when valuing the company at all, nor the profits, so it would not go up on their books so to speak
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Apparently the Qatar group are desperate to takeover the club.
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