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Ashley Young
Topic Started: May 29 2011, 03:08 PM (1,452 Views)
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Sometimes a club feels they have to do what they have to do. But you wonder where it will end and how long it will be before most players are earning close to £200k a week.
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If the club makes 100s of millions with significant help from the players, then they're fully entitled to a big wage.
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Like Man City, for example, whose wage bill is 107% of their turnover?
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A player should earn that though... rather than being given it before he's kicked a ball for the club. There should be a basic salary. If Young does fantastically and then wants even more money, how much are United going to end up giving him?
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Jun 10 2011, 07:01 PM
Trust me, Luiz is on that money. Check the Chelsea wage bill, he wouldn't have come to be paid any less.

Torres hasn't been one of 'the very best players in the world' for 18 months.

Vieira on ridiculous money, over the £130k a week you talk about.
Luiz isnt on that kind of money, no chance
And he joined us because he had the chance to play in a better club in a better league

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Jun 10 2011, 07:12 PM
Like Man City, for example, whose wage bill is 107% of their turnover?
Man City can hardly be used as an example of anything :rofl:

You said you've been on about it for years anyways.
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Certain players like Ronaldo and Messi are worth every penny of it

the likes of Gerrard and Torres have been worth their wages to us . It has gone out of control in recent years though. Average players are getting wages that only the top top players should be getting
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Jun 10 2011, 07:14 PM
There should be a basic salary.
Hehe, this makes me think of minimum wage
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Jun 10 2011, 07:14 PM
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Jun 10 2011, 07:01 PM
Trust me, Luiz is on that money. Check the Chelsea wage bill, he wouldn't have come to be paid any less.

Torres hasn't been one of 'the very best players in the world' for 18 months.

Vieira on ridiculous money, over the £130k a week you talk about.
Luiz isnt on that kind of money, no chance
And he joined us because he had the chance to play in a better club in a better league
He wouldn't join a club at that price to be on the lower end of the pay scale. He'll match the top earners; Terry, Lampard, Essien etc
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Jun 10 2011, 07:14 PM
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Jun 10 2011, 07:12 PM
Like Man City, for example, whose wage bill is 107% of their turnover?
Man City can hardly be used as an example of anything :rofl:

You said you've been on about it for years anyways.
That makes no sense what so ever...
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Jun 10 2011, 07:22 PM
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Jun 10 2011, 07:14 PM
Azward
Jun 10 2011, 07:12 PM
Like Man City, for example, whose wage bill is 107% of their turnover?
Man City can hardly be used as an example of anything :rofl:

You said you've been on about it for years anyways.
That makes no sense what so ever...
How does it not, you said you've had a problem with wages for years. I said it's justified due to the revenues the clubs make. Then you used City as an example. One club that's gone mad recently. Your example makes no sense.
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You said "If the club makes 100s of millions with significant help from the players, then they're fully entitled to a big wage."

No Man City player has contributed to the club making any profit, therefore your point has been proved wrong. Conveniently Man City can't be used as an example by your own rules, but at Chelsea, no player has made that club millions, it has come from a sugar daddyski. Does that satisfy your rules? :p

I have moaned about wages for donkeys, how does proving you wrong with a recent example prove your point?
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Jun 10 2011, 07:32 PM
You said "If the club makes 100s of millions with significant help from the players, then they're fully entitled to a big wage."

No Man City player has contributed to the club making any profit, therefore your point has been proved wrong. Conveniently Man City can't be used as an example by your own rules, but at Chelsea, no player has made that club millions, it has come from a sugar daddyski. Does that satisfy your rules? :p

I have moaned about wages for donkeys, how does proving you wrong with a recent example prove your point?
Ok so your point is that because Citys wages are out of control, all clubs are? Who cares about City, they shouldn't even be part of this debate because their mental, using them as an example doesn't give a clear indication of player wages. It's like me saying Dawn French overeats, therefore every woman overeats. Stupid argument.

On your Chelsea point, don't you think players brought a lot of money in through success on the pitch, prize money, sponsorship deals etc. Take Man Utd for a proper example, Jeffers posted today that they made a 90m operating profit. Why shouldn't the staff be entitled to a cut of that? Uefa/Fifa (can't remember where I read it) recommend that 70% of turnover being used on wages is a healthy, maintainable figure. A quick look at Google shows that even with City and Chelsea being taken into account, on average the Premier League clubs spend 67% of it's turnover on wages.
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Of course the wages in the Prem are out of control. Debt in the premiership is £3.5 billion. You do the maths.

Take Roman from Chelsea, Saudi's from City and you have an implosion which takes the biggest clubs right to there knees. The fact that, despite mega income clubs still require cash injections from super rich owners screams out that the finance is wrong.

Your point was that if a club has earned millions, players deserve a slice? My point is that it's not just the clubs which earn millions, it's virtually all clubs. The finances are a mess, hence the new rules UEFA are trying to to enforce.

Read this : http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13679632

Then realise that the epidemic is out of control.
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Jun 10 2011, 07:21 PM
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Jun 10 2011, 07:14 PM
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Jun 10 2011, 07:01 PM
Trust me, Luiz is on that money. Check the Chelsea wage bill, he wouldn't have come to be paid any less.

Torres hasn't been one of 'the very best players in the world' for 18 months.

Vieira on ridiculous money, over the £130k a week you talk about.
Luiz isnt on that kind of money, no chance
And he joined us because he had the chance to play in a better club in a better league
He wouldn't join a club at that price to be on the lower end of the pay scale. He'll match the top earners; Terry, Lampard, Essien etc
We wouldnt match his wages with the likes of Terry, Lampard and Drogba because its only his frst season with us

He will be on 70-90k a week, the likes of Drogba and Terry are club legends and helped us win trophies and played big parts, not to mention they both have been with us for over 5 years

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