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Torres; Lost in Translation?
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Topic Started: Sep 12 2011, 03:58 PM (2,205 Views)
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OMG conversion rate is based on chances he is forking getting. How can you use creativy against that stat?!
It really depends on the chance, the fact is, Torres has mostly been getting half chances at Chelsea, a player low on confidence isnt likely to score many of them
Yeah he has never had a 1 vs 1 untill today. All half chances most from about 50 yards out iirc. The open goal today wasn't his fault either only a half chance. You make it sound like he was playing with 10 forking blind retards last season. Stop playing down the Chelsea side. They are nowhere near as bad as you are making them out to be.
chelsea have been stale for a very long time now. I seriously give up. Yes ok other than Mata they are a squad full of retards who I don't think have ever created a chance for anyone ever. Also if they did the chances wouldn't be the right type or any other excuse you need to defend a player who quite clearly at his best buried nearly every chance he has got at Chelsea.
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Sep 18 2011, 11:34 PM
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Paddy do you think Torres looked more like himself today?
Yeah definitely, he looked up for it after scoring and I know he wasn't but he did look a little quicker of the mark  Had a couple of good moments were he wasn't stuck in two minds about what to do, specifically the little run were he beat a few players. If he has a few good games on the trot and builds his confidence up then he'll be banging them in in no time imo.
what do you think changed? coz now he seems to be responding?
The two new additions changed it for me. Both are midfielders who will look for the pass before the shot. Look at Suarezs goal against Arsenal for example, Meireles unselfishly squared it as Suarez was in a better position. I'd put everything I own on Lampard or Essien shooting from there. Everytime I've watched Torres at Chelsea his movement has been top class but he's ignored a lot of the time by people who just shoot on sight. That's not to say Torres hasn't been given chances, he has been given a few he would normally bury but his confidence was that low that he wasn't putting them away so the midfielders were even less likely to pass to him, and his confidence kept falling. It was a viscious cycle. Now he has two players behind him that will play the ball quickly and in front of him. He played decent midweek and got a goal today so he gained a little of his old confidence back. Which was the main reason for him looking better. There's no telling how much of damage that miss will do to him now though. But I think he'll be ok. Thanks Paddy think you just summed it all up in that one post
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Sep 18 2011, 11:35 PM
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RVP has only scored 1 goal in the league this season. why do you think that is Goonie?
Are you trying to compare the side van Persie has around him to the side Torres does?
yh why not? Last season Cech kept telling us how Chelsea were better than Arsenal right? Look at van Persie last season. Equaled a record for most goals after January.
We are nowhere near that side now.
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Sep 18 2011, 11:37 PM
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OMG conversion rate is based on chances he is forking getting. How can you use creativy against that stat?!
It really depends on the chance, the fact is, Torres has mostly been getting half chances at Chelsea, a player low on confidence isnt likely to score many of them
Yeah he has never had a 1 vs 1 untill today. All half chances most from about 50 yards out iirc. The open goal today wasn't his fault either only a half chance. You make it sound like he was playing with 10 forking blind retards last season. Stop playing down the Chelsea side. They are nowhere near as bad as you are making them out to be.
chelsea have been stale for a very long time now.
I seriously give up. Yes ok other than Mata they are a squad full of retards who I don't think have ever created a chance for anyone ever. Also if they did the chances wouldn't be the right type or any other excuse you need to defend a player who quite clearly at his best buried nearly every chance he has got at Chelsea. your looking at it from a very narrow perspective. chances can be created doesnt mean uts quality chances. take berbatov's miss today frm rooney a rooney pass. it will go down as a chance but what it wont say is that it was a pi55 poor pass frm Rooney.
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Sep 18 2011, 11:37 PM
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OMG conversion rate is based on chances he is forking getting. How can you use creativy against that stat?!
It really depends on the chance, the fact is, Torres has mostly been getting half chances at Chelsea, a player low on confidence isnt likely to score many of them
Yeah he has never had a 1 vs 1 untill today. All half chances most from about 50 yards out iirc. The open goal today wasn't his fault either only a half chance. You make it sound like he was playing with 10 forking blind retards last season. Stop playing down the Chelsea side. They are nowhere near as bad as you are making them out to be.
chelsea have been stale for a very long time now.
I seriously give up. Yes ok other than Mata they are a squad full of retards who I don't think have ever created a chance for anyone ever. Also if they did the chances wouldn't be the right type or any other excuse you need to defend a player who quite clearly at his best buried nearly every chance he has got at Chelsea. You do realise Lampard, Malouda and anelka are all past there best dont you?
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Sep 18 2011, 11:38 PM
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I am talking about chances "HE WOULD BURY" when at his best.
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Sep 18 2011, 11:38 PM
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OMG conversion rate is based on chances he is forking getting. How can you use creativy against that stat?!
It really depends on the chance, the fact is, Torres has mostly been getting half chances at Chelsea, a player low on confidence isnt likely to score many of them
Yeah he has never had a 1 vs 1 untill today. All half chances most from about 50 yards out iirc. The open goal today wasn't his fault either only a half chance. You make it sound like he was playing with 10 forking blind retards last season. Stop playing down the Chelsea side. They are nowhere near as bad as you are making them out to be.
chelsea have been stale for a very long time now.
I seriously give up. Yes ok other than Mata they are a squad full of retards who I don't think have ever created a chance for anyone ever. Also if they did the chances wouldn't be the right type or any other excuse you need to defend a player who quite clearly at his best buried nearly every chance he has got at Chelsea.
You do realise Lampard, Malouda and anelka are all past there best dont you? Malouda had a best?
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OMG conversion rate is based on chances he is forking getting. How can you use creativy against that stat?!
It really depends on the chance, the fact is, Torres has mostly been getting half chances at Chelsea, a player low on confidence isnt likely to score many of them
Yeah he has never had a 1 vs 1 untill today. All half chances most from about 50 yards out iirc. The open goal today wasn't his fault either only a half chance. You make it sound like he was playing with 10 forking blind retards last season. Stop playing down the Chelsea side. They are nowhere near as bad as you are making them out to be.
chelsea have been stale for a very long time now.
I seriously give up. Yes ok other than Mata they are a squad full of retards who I don't think have ever created a chance for anyone ever. Also if they did the chances wouldn't be the right type or any other excuse you need to defend a player who quite clearly at his best buried nearly every chance he has got at Chelsea.
You do realise Lampard, Malouda and anelka are all past there best dont you? Yes I do but so is Giggs and he creates. I also realise Torres is.
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Sep 18 2011, 11:38 PM
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OMG conversion rate is based on chances he is forking getting. How can you use creativy against that stat?!
It really depends on the chance, the fact is, Torres has mostly been getting half chances at Chelsea, a player low on confidence isnt likely to score many of them
Yeah he has never had a 1 vs 1 untill today. All half chances most from about 50 yards out iirc. The open goal today wasn't his fault either only a half chance. You make it sound like he was playing with 10 forking blind retards last season. Stop playing down the Chelsea side. They are nowhere near as bad as you are making them out to be.
chelsea have been stale for a very long time now.
I seriously give up. Yes ok other than Mata they are a squad full of retards who I don't think have ever created a chance for anyone ever. Also if they did the chances wouldn't be the right type or any other excuse you need to defend a player who quite clearly at his best buried nearly every chance he has got at Chelsea.
You do realise Lampard, Malouda and anelka are all past there best dont you?
Malouda had a best? Yeah 09/10 season
16 goals
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Sep 18 2011, 11:39 PM
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OMG conversion rate is based on chances he is forking getting. How can you use creativy against that stat?!
It really depends on the chance, the fact is, Torres has mostly been getting half chances at Chelsea, a player low on confidence isnt likely to score many of them
Yeah he has never had a 1 vs 1 untill today. All half chances most from about 50 yards out iirc. The open goal today wasn't his fault either only a half chance. You make it sound like he was playing with 10 forking blind retards last season. Stop playing down the Chelsea side. They are nowhere near as bad as you are making them out to be.
chelsea have been stale for a very long time now.
I seriously give up. Yes ok other than Mata they are a squad full of retards who I don't think have ever created a chance for anyone ever. Also if they did the chances wouldn't be the right type or any other excuse you need to defend a player who quite clearly at his best buried nearly every chance he has got at Chelsea.
You do realise Lampard, Malouda and anelka are all past there best dont you?
Malouda had a best?
Yeah 09/10 season 16 goals I must have been out that day
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OMG conversion rate is based on chances he is forking getting. How can you use creativy against that stat?!
It really depends on the chance, the fact is, Torres has mostly been getting half chances at Chelsea, a player low on confidence isnt likely to score many of them
Yeah he has never had a 1 vs 1 untill today. All half chances most from about 50 yards out iirc. The open goal today wasn't his fault either only a half chance. You make it sound like he was playing with 10 forking blind retards last season. Stop playing down the Chelsea side. They are nowhere near as bad as you are making them out to be.
chelsea have been stale for a very long time now.
I seriously give up. Yes ok other than Mata they are a squad full of retards who I don't think have ever created a chance for anyone ever. Also if they did the chances wouldn't be the right type or any other excuse you need to defend a player who quite clearly at his best buried nearly every chance he has got at Chelsea.
You do realise Lampard, Malouda and anelka are all past there best dont you?
Yes I do but so is Giggs and he creates. I also realise Torres is. Torres is only 27, while those three are all over 31....
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OMG conversion rate is based on chances he is forking getting. How can you use creativy against that stat?!
It really depends on the chance, the fact is, Torres has mostly been getting half chances at Chelsea, a player low on confidence isnt likely to score many of them
Yeah he has never had a 1 vs 1 untill today. All half chances most from about 50 yards out iirc. The open goal today wasn't his fault either only a half chance. You make it sound like he was playing with 10 forking blind retards last season. Stop playing down the Chelsea side. They are nowhere near as bad as you are making them out to be.
chelsea have been stale for a very long time now.
I seriously give up. Yes ok other than Mata they are a squad full of retards who I don't think have ever created a chance for anyone ever. Also if they did the chances wouldn't be the right type or any other excuse you need to defend a player who quite clearly at his best buried nearly every chance he has got at Chelsea.
You do realise Lampard, Malouda and anelka are all past there best dont you?
Yes I do but so is Giggs and he creates. I also realise Torres is. Giggs also has Rooney, Young, Nani and Valencia all in their peak who create chances aswell....
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RVP has only scored 1 goal in the league this season. why do you think that is Goonie?
Are you trying to compare the side van Persie has around him to the side Torres does?
yh why not?
Last season Cech kept telling us how Chelsea were better than Arsenal right? Look at van Persie last season. Equaled a record for most goals after January. We are nowhere near that side now. theres a difference chelsea were a better team than arsenal last season. But Arsenal were a more creative team than chelsea. nasri, wilshere and fab are the most creative players in the league/world whereas lampard, essien and ramires are not creative At all lool
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OMG conversion rate is based on chances he is forking getting. How can you use creativy against that stat?!
It really depends on the chance, the fact is, Torres has mostly been getting half chances at Chelsea, a player low on confidence isnt likely to score many of them
Yeah he has never had a 1 vs 1 untill today. All half chances most from about 50 yards out iirc. The open goal today wasn't his fault either only a half chance. You make it sound like he was playing with 10 forking blind retards last season. Stop playing down the Chelsea side. They are nowhere near as bad as you are making them out to be.
chelsea have been stale for a very long time now.
I seriously give up. Yes ok other than Mata they are a squad full of retards who I don't think have ever created a chance for anyone ever. Also if they did the chances wouldn't be the right type or any other excuse you need to defend a player who quite clearly at his best buried nearly every chance he has got at Chelsea.
You do realise Lampard, Malouda and anelka are all past there best dont you?
Yes I do but so is Giggs and he creates. I also realise Torres is.
Torres is only 27, while those three are all over 31.... Oh sorry I forgot you're age meant if you are under 31 you can't be past your best. Players can peak early. Ronaldinho for example.
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