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Liverpool want to break away from PL TV deal
Topic Started: Oct 11 2011, 10:41 PM (623 Views)
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Liverpool seek TV breakaway from Premier League

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Liverpool have signalled their desire to break away from the rest of the Premier League and negotiate their own overseas TV rights deal.

The club believe that they are not getting a fair deal from the collective bargaining model that shares the £1.4 billion, three-year contract evenly between all 20 top-flight sides, who each received £17.9 million last season.

Liverpool argue that they would be able to negotiate a far more lucrative contract independently and, if they are successful, they could pave the way for other high-profile clubs, such as Manchester United, to follow suit.

Smaller clubs will be dismayed by the plans, though, feeling that the end of collective bargaining will only widen the gap in wealth.

Liverpool and United counter this by saying their prime motive is to stay competitive with the other leading clubs in Europe, such as Real Madrid and Barcelona, who are able to negotiate lucrative individual contracts for global TV rights. On top of that, Liverpool warn of the threat to the Premier League’s status as world football’s most profitable and popular league unless its biggest clubs are able to keep pace with the Spanish giants.

Ian Ayre, the Liverpool managing director, said: “If Real Madrid or Barcelona or other big European clubs have the opportunity to truly realise their international media value, where does that leave Liverpool and Man United? We’ll just share ours because we’ll all be nice to each other?

“But the whole phenomenon of the Premier League could be threatened. If they just get bigger and bigger and they generate more and more, then all the players will start drifting that way, won’t they, and will the Premier League bubble be burst because we are sticking to this equal-sharing model? It’s a real debate that has to happen.”

The league’s international television rights deal expires at the end of the 2012-13 season and Ayre has questioned whether it should be renewed. A recent report by Sport+Markt estimated that the Premier League’s global fanbase is 1.46 billion strong — 70 per cent of the world’s estimated 2.08 billion football fans — and that the television audience for games has risen to 4.7 billion across 212 countries.

But with Real and Barcelona having deals with Mediapro until at least 2012-13 that will contribute broadcasting revenues of, on average, approximately £136 million each season, Ayre fears that such dominance could come under threat.

Ayre is happy to see the status quo maintained where domestic TV rights are concerned, readily conceding that take-up of the Sky package is not dependent on the popularity of particular clubs. But he insists the situation is different overseas given the massive following that Liverpool and United boast abroad, in Asia and the Far East especially.

“Maybe the path will be individual TV rights like they do in Spain,” he said. “There are so many things moving in that area. What is certain is that, with the greatest of respect to our colleagues in the Premier League, if you’re a Bolton fan in Bolton, then you subscribe to Sky because you want to watch Bolton, and everyone gets that.

“Likewise, if you’re a Liverpool fan from Liverpool, you subscribe. But if you’re in Kuala Lumpur there isn’t anyone subscribing to Astro or ESPN to watch Bolton, or if they are it’s a very small number. The large majority are subscribing because they want to watch Liverpool, Manchester United, Chelsea or Arsenal. So is it right that the international rights are shared equally between all the clubs?”

Liverpool are likely to raise the issue at the next Premier League meeting. For the present situation to be changed, the proposition would be voted on by the 20 clubs and would need a two-thirds majority — 14 clubs in favour — for any amendments to be implemented.

At present there does not appear to be a groundswell of support for what would amount to a revolution. In a recent interview Mr. Ferguson claimed that “whatever we get [in TV revenue] is not enough”, but the United manager qualified his statement with an admission that “it is fair” that the proceeds are shared evenly.

Ayre, though, believes that the present situation should be debated at least and while Ferguson may not be supportive, the Glazer family, who own United, could be natural allies given their determination to maximise the club’s revenue potential overseas.
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How does it work when L'pool play away to say Norwich? Norwich would surely need financial incentive to allow L'pool the right to sell the game abroad?
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This cannot happen, it will destroy the league with over half of that money going to the top 6 sides IMO

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ridiculous. will just ruin the PL for good. any chance of a decent match between teams of opposite sides of the table will be gone.

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Tom Werner owns a broadcasting station doesn't he? Which has links to Warren Buffet? Hope we can do something like this then :lol:
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ridiculous. will just ruin the PL for good. any chance of a decent match between teams of opposite sides of the table will be gone.

I don't think it would ruin the league at all tbh, it would have a bigger affect on the players. It would just mean that average shite can't demand wages like 50k a week because the clubs that would want them, just won't be able to afford it.
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it will just create an even bigger gap between the sides to be honest. be the same 6 sides winning everything with only those with mega rich owners being able to compete. i worry for the teams who dont have a big following at all, who will be their TV deals? it wont be sky, theyll back out if the big teams arent there to draw in the viewers.

its great if you're a fan of the top 6 teams, but as a fan of a non top 6 team, i think its just asking for trouble.
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of course it would ruin the league. It would make the league even less competitive than it is at the moment.
Not surprised Liverpool are doing this as they are in real danger of becoming premier league also rans.
It is inevitable that it will happen one day though, and has been since the Americans came into the prem.
United would benefit massively from this, more than any club, although i have read that fergie has said he doesn't want it to happen as it will mean less competition. Saying that, it wouldn't be his decision and Malc could make a killing.
Btw, don't 14 out of the 20 clubs have to agree? Can't see that many agreeing
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I believe the EPL has the best setup at the moment with all clubs treated equally. In Scotland the OF take 50% of all tv money between them with the other 50% divided between the rest of the clubs, it creates a gulf that simply gets bigger and bigger.

Paddy your arguement that it just means average players wont be able to demand big wages wont work as they will just go elsewhere to get the money, smaller clubs wont be able to afford any marquee signings and any youth prospects will move to the big clubs as they will be the only clubs able to afford them.
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they might as well have a break away league where the top 6 play each other 4 times over the season. If this came in the games between them would be the only ones that matter. Everton, Bolton, Wigan etc.. only just balance the books each season, take money from them and they will get worse.
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a fair few clubs would fold id imagine. most use the money from sky to keep afloat. they wont get that type of deal anywhere else.
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I'm not sure it would even benefit Liverpool so much in the league, City, Chelsea and United will still be able to spend more than them and are already in better positions without the money. Also we would see less value in the market
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With financial fair play coming in it would help L'Pool massively, they have the next biggest support worldwide after Man Utd so would gain a fair bit of financial muscle.
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I hope this doesn't happen. We'd have a La Liga scenario with only a couple of teams competing at the top every season.
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it would indeed kill the lower teams
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