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Is Kenny Dalglish a stop-gap at Liverpool?
Topic Started: Oct 15 2011, 10:35 PM (2,911 Views)
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thefieldsofanfieldroad
Oct 21 2011, 05:34 PM
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thefieldsofanfieldroad
Oct 21 2011, 05:28 PM
you said his last outings as manager were terrible as well. newcastle, celtic yes he was a failure but thats because the football landscape at that time was changing and for someone like kenny it was always going to be hard to adapt.

bad business acumen care to elaborate on that because if your on about the prices he paid for henderson, downing and carroll. thats the way fsg do business not kenny, also add to that they are all english players so over the odds will always be paid.
Thats the price of "ethnic cleansing" :whistle:
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Gotta keep Suarez happy :cheeky:
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thefieldsofanfieldroad
Oct 21 2011, 05:28 PM
you said his last outings as manager were terrible as well. newcastle, celtic yes he was a failure but thats because the football landscape at that time was changing and for someone like kenny it was always going to be hard to adapt.

bad business acumen care to elaborate on that because if your on about the prices he paid for henderson, downing and carroll. thats the way fsg do business not kenny, also add to that they are all english players so over the odds will always be paid.
Thats the price of "ethnic cleansing" :whistle:
:rofl:
Gotta keep Suarez happy :cheeky:
lets hope his next target is that waster of a right back johnson :whistle:
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Oct 21 2011, 05:36 PM
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Oct 21 2011, 05:34 PM
VivaRonaldo
Oct 21 2011, 05:30 PM
thefieldsofanfieldroad
Oct 21 2011, 05:28 PM
you said his last outings as manager were terrible as well. newcastle, celtic yes he was a failure but thats because the football landscape at that time was changing and for someone like kenny it was always going to be hard to adapt.

bad business acumen care to elaborate on that because if your on about the prices he paid for henderson, downing and carroll. thats the way fsg do business not kenny, also add to that they are all english players so over the odds will always be paid.
Thats the price of "ethnic cleansing" :whistle:
:rofl:
Gotta keep Suarez happy :cheeky:
:rofl:
Johnson is next on Luiz hitlist :balotelli:
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Kenny is nothing but a motivator from what iv seen, that guy from spurs(comioni?) sorts the transfers and that guy from chelse(clarke?) does the tactics. Kenny just has final say on what they do, delegation at its finest!

I do think he was just a stop gap until the end of last season, he did well and the fans love him so he was kept on. I doubt he would have been allowed to spend £~70m on players this summer if he was just a stop gap, he is obviously in a full time role now.
clarke came from west ham and you missed out kevin keen doing the training :p
He was chelsea before hand :cheeky:

IMO fergie is the same, everyone saw how much of a loss Carlos Queriez was when he went to manage Portugal, having a good team around the manager helps
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thefieldsofanfieldroad
Oct 21 2011, 05:28 PM
you said his last outings as manager were terrible as well. newcastle, celtic yes he was a failure but thats because the football landscape at that time was changing and for someone like kenny it was always going to be hard to adapt.

bad business acumen care to elaborate on that because if your on about the prices he paid for henderson, downing and carroll. thats the way fsg do business not kenny, also add to that they are all english players so over the odds will always be paid.
Thats the price of "ethnic cleansing" :whistle:
:rofl:
Gotta keep Suarez happy :cheeky:
lets hope his next target is that waster of a right back johnson :whistle:
Nah he'll go after N'Gog first..

Oops he's already been pushed out :D that leaves Johnson and.... :o TOKEN BLACK GUY
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Kennys say on the tactical side is under stated here I think. The 3 at the back formation for example was used by him during his last spell as manager. Same as the 442 with a tucked in winger. Clarke is a 433 man.
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“The trouble with referees is that they know the rules, but they do not know the game.”
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VivaRonaldo
Oct 21 2011, 05:36 PM
thefieldsofanfieldroad
Oct 21 2011, 05:34 PM
VivaRonaldo
Oct 21 2011, 05:30 PM
thefieldsofanfieldroad
Oct 21 2011, 05:28 PM
you said his last outings as manager were terrible as well. newcastle, celtic yes he was a failure but thats because the football landscape at that time was changing and for someone like kenny it was always going to be hard to adapt.

bad business acumen care to elaborate on that because if your on about the prices he paid for henderson, downing and carroll. thats the way fsg do business not kenny, also add to that they are all english players so over the odds will always be paid.
Thats the price of "ethnic cleansing" :whistle:
:rofl:
Gotta keep Suarez happy :cheeky:
lets hope his next target is that waster of a right back johnson :whistle:
Nah he'll go after N'Gog first..

Oops he's already been pushed out :D that leaves Johnson and.... :o TOKEN BLACK GUY
:lol:

i remember the whole token black guy thing from the films during the mid 90's. there was always one black guy about just to promote racial togetherness. the only thing is they use to get killed off all the time :lol:
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Oct 21 2011, 05:38 PM
thefieldsofanfieldroad
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Jeffers
Oct 21 2011, 05:33 PM
Kenny is nothing but a motivator from what iv seen, that guy from spurs(comioni?) sorts the transfers and that guy from chelse(clarke?) does the tactics. Kenny just has final say on what they do, delegation at its finest!

I do think he was just a stop gap until the end of last season, he did well and the fans love him so he was kept on. I doubt he would have been allowed to spend £~70m on players this summer if he was just a stop gap, he is obviously in a full time role now.
clarke came from west ham and you missed out kevin keen doing the training :p
He was chelsea before hand :cheeky:

IMO fergie is the same, everyone saw how much of a loss Carlos Queriez was when he went to manage Portugal, having a good team around the manager helps
i know :p

same happened when pako left when he fell out with rafa
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Oct 20 2011, 12:55 AM
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only just noticed this, what a hero :rofl:
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Monu has been posting for 20 minutes now, better be worth it :whistle:
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Honest question Monu....do you think Kenny is showing favouritism or does he just not know what's what within his squad?


I'd prefer not to answer those questions as they are very much open to interpretation.
I will however expand on the shared we belief we hold on Kenny's tactical flaws. I suppose in a way it can come down to favouritism or lack of knowledge in our squad. The one thing that is unequivocally evident is Kenny's lack of tactical awareness. Game after game we've seen it. I have no reservations about this. He hasn't got the foggiest on what to do when things go south. His substitutions are consistently late and his choice of withdrawal is infuriating.

For example tonight. Dirk Kuyt had possibly one of the worst games I've ever seen him play yet Bellamy and Downing were hooked before him. What makes him untouchable? This isn't the first time it has happened. Favouritism or lack of tactical nous?

Steven Gerrard and Charlie Adam tired really badly in the second half. What does Kenny do? He substitutes Craig Bellamy who was comfortably our second best player for Jordan Henderson to play right wing! The repercussions were seen instantly.

Jordan Henderson doesn't know how to play football and offered absolutely nothing to the side other than ridiculously selected passes.
Downing was moved from his best position to the left side where he had no effect.
Steven Gerrard and Charlie Adam were given no support centrally where it was desperately needed.
Norwich took advantage of the lack of drive in our midfield and Hoola Hoops had a field day.

He then brought on Andy Carroll for Stewart Downing. How does that work then? Kuyt was sent to the left side and Andy Carroll played everywhere but centre forward. I have alot of respect for Kuyt and work he has done but he is an incredibly bad crosser of the ball. Was he really a better choice on the left than Bellamy or Downing? Favouritism or lack of tactical nous?

It's easy for me to say he should've done this that and blah blah blah but I honestly believe his faith in his signings is clouding his judgement.
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The last line sums it up for me pretty much. :lol:
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the Agger sub was crazy, he was on the pitch for 3 mins?

I think refs have caught onto Suarez's game, or Fergie is paying them not to give him fouls

Norwich played well, even at the end they were trying to pass the ball out rather than punting it long, as Liverpool did.


meant for match day :doh:
Edited by Jeffers, Oct 22 2011, 08:26 PM.
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About 70m more spent (net) and an extra 6 months to settle prior to the new season and the result is only 5 more points than Hodgson :ph43r:

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That's actually something i read somewhere else so i make no claims as to its accuracy. Realistically though, unless things improve surely Dalglish will be replaced at the end of the season. You're not even on course for 4th at the minute (63 points at the current rate, which hasn't been enough since Everton did it with 62 in 2005).

Edited for spelling.
Edited by Stryke, Oct 22 2011, 08:28 PM.
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