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SS Footballing Greats Series
Topic Started: Oct 21 2011, 12:40 AM (916 Views)
InWengerWeTrust
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GOAT.
thefieldsofanfieldroad
Oct 21 2011, 05:59 PM
if messi is such a god why is he shite for argentina?
I hope to god you are on the wind up. Messi is so far from shite for Argentina its unreal.

The World Cup and Internationls picked the best players in the world as its when everyone go together back when Puskás etc... were around but now with the huge ammount of foreigners in Europe we have the best players in the world play season in season out in the C/L so Messi is proving himself each season against the best ever so he doesn't need to perform for Argentina at a WC etc.... although he does play well for them anyway.
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Put up one for Batigol pls
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InWengerWeTrust
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Crouchy
Oct 21 2011, 06:04 PM
Put up one for Batigol pls

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BATIGOL! One of the greatest CFs of all time.
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“The trouble with referees is that they know the rules, but they do not know the game.”
StarkRavingGenius
Oct 21 2011, 06:00 PM
thefieldsofanfieldroad
Oct 21 2011, 05:59 PM
if messi is such a god why is he shite for argentina?
I hope to god you are on the wind up. Messi is so far from shite for Argentina its unreal.

The World Cup and Internationls picked the best players in the world as its when everyone go together back when Puskás etc... were around but now with the huge ammount of foreigners in Europe we have the best players in the world play season in season out in the C/L so Messi is proving himself each season against the best ever so he doesn't need to perform for Argentina at a WC etc.... although he does play well for them anyway.
its a matter of opinion. every time i have seen him play for argentina hes been far from impressive, deffo does not play to the high standards at barca. prob because of the fact barca are built around him

anyway back on subject. you should have a look at the sir stanley matthews videos.
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Crouch, they got Ronaldinho and Ronaldo too. I'll post all links in the opening post soon with the players name above them. Like 10/15 of them :)
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thefieldsofanfieldroad
Oct 21 2011, 06:11 PM
StarkRavingGenius
Oct 21 2011, 06:00 PM
thefieldsofanfieldroad
Oct 21 2011, 05:59 PM
if messi is such a god why is he shite for argentina?
I hope to god you are on the wind up. Messi is so far from shite for Argentina its unreal.

The World Cup and Internationls picked the best players in the world as its when everyone go together back when Puskás etc... were around but now with the huge ammount of foreigners in Europe we have the best players in the world play season in season out in the C/L so Messi is proving himself each season against the best ever so he doesn't need to perform for Argentina at a WC etc.... although he does play well for them anyway.
its a matter of opinion. every time i have seen him play for argentina hes been far from impressive, deffo does not play to the high standards at barca. prob because of the fact barca are built around him

anyway back on subject. you should have a look at the sir stanley matthews videos.
For Argentina he has to drop deeper than normal as no one creates so he comes looking for the ball and during the Copa America just like the World Cup he was creating chances for fun. He was an AM for a couple of games at the Copa America due to them creating nothing.
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For the GOAT:- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxbcHUMotN0&feature=channel_video_title
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Thats not Messi.

I could just tell you to click on his YT channel instead of post all these but i'm bored.
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StarkRavingGenius
Oct 21 2011, 06:23 PM
Thats not Messi.
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Your observation is correct, your underlying message is not.
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They both very much are correct :)

I'd have Xavi over Zidane too.

They have missed out some class players. They don't seem to be doing players that have played in England the rats except two.
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When either Xavi or Messi grabs his team by the neck and drags them to a CL or World Cup or Euro Final then I'll consider them to be in the same class.
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Consistancy at a high level. Zidane doesn't come close to either when it comes to this. I've never seen Xavi put in a performance you'd say is poor, the guy is a freak of nature and the ultimate freak of nature of Lionel Messi. How the fork he plays at a level that high and does it so consistanly is beyond amazing. A career isn't over 10-20 games.

I'd take the real Ronaldo over Zidane also.
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Cheers goonie. Will end up watching them all now ffs :rofl:
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Oct 21 2011, 06:35 PM
Consistancy at a high level. Zidane doesn't come close to either when it comes to this. I've never seen Xavi put in a performance you'd say is poor, the guy is a freak of nature and the ultimate freak of nature of Lionel Messi. How the fork he plays at a level that high and does it so consistanly is beyond amazing. A career isn't over 10-20 games.
A career isn't over 10-20 games? Yet greats like Pele, Zidane, Platini, Cruijff, Maradona aren't judged on their 300-400 games with Santos, Ajax, Juventus, Barcelona etc but for their performances with Brazil, France, Argentina & Netherlands. The World Cup, the Euros & the Champions League are the pinnacle of football it is what distinguishes a very good player from a good player. All of those mentioned were leaders and took their teams beyond and to success against the odds. Like I said, both Xavi & Messi are exceptional players but until one of them turns up to a tournament like Euro 2000 or WC 2006 or CONSISTENTLY performs exceptionally in high pressure matches vs. Italy '00, vs. Brazil '98, vs. Bayer Leverkusen '02, vs. Brazil '06, vs. Italy '06 then I'd consider them to be his equivalents.
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