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Topic Started: Oct 21 2011, 12:40 AM (914 Views)
InWengerWeTrust
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GOAT.
Messi against Madrid last season in the semi final did that and Gerrard has done that so Gerrard is now as good as Zidane right?

Zidane was never consistantly anything. You have to be consistant to do that. Also Messi is consistantly exceptional every season.

It is a pathetic way to judge people. If you think people should be judged on 4-5 games every 4 years then there is no point in this debate.

You've said you don't even watch La Liga on Liquid so yeah you're guessing tbh :lol: You'll try and argue this but you haven't a leg to stand on when you have said you don't watch them.
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manu22
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Goonie you cant even begin to compare club football to international football its totally different. international football like the world cup hold much more value imo than any club competition because it reaches out to a wider audience. and the best players from each country is present which makes it the toughest competition to win.
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“The trouble with referees is that they know the rules, but they do not know the game.”
StarkRavingGenius
Oct 21 2011, 07:17 PM
thefieldsofanfieldroad
Oct 21 2011, 07:15 PM
StarkRavingGenius
Oct 21 2011, 07:11 PM
thefieldsofanfieldroad
Oct 21 2011, 07:09 PM
the world cup is the biggest competition in the world, how you can say its not is baffling
Fergie, Wenger etc.... agree with me
ask the players, not the managers because its the players opinion that counts not their club managers
The higher standard of football is played in the champions league. It doesn't matter what the players say :lol: It won't change that.
the optimum words are - club football. cl football is the pinnacle of that yes but you ask most player(non british) would they rather win the cl with their club or the world cup with their national side. i think you would find the answer would be the world cup

anyway it seems to have gone off topic, my bad :lol:
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InWengerWeTrust
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The best players in the world play in the Champions League every season Manu so that arguement doesn't work.
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Zidane was never consistent :o
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StarkRavingGenius
Oct 21 2011, 07:17 PM
thefieldsofanfieldroad
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Oct 21 2011, 07:11 PM
thefieldsofanfieldroad
Oct 21 2011, 07:09 PM
the world cup is the biggest competition in the world, how you can say its not is baffling
Fergie, Wenger etc.... agree with me
ask the players, not the managers because its the players opinion that counts not their club managers
The higher standard of football is played in the champions league. It doesn't matter what the players say :lol: It won't change that.
There should be when the players can be cherry picked from across the globe
"I don't play against a particular team. I play against the idea of losing." - Cantona
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InWengerWeTrust
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GOAT.
thefieldsofanfieldroad
Oct 21 2011, 07:24 PM
StarkRavingGenius
Oct 21 2011, 07:17 PM
thefieldsofanfieldroad
Oct 21 2011, 07:15 PM
StarkRavingGenius
Oct 21 2011, 07:11 PM
thefieldsofanfieldroad
Oct 21 2011, 07:09 PM
the world cup is the biggest competition in the world, how you can say its not is baffling
Fergie, Wenger etc.... agree with me
ask the players, not the managers because its the players opinion that counts not their club managers
The higher standard of football is played in the champions league. It doesn't matter what the players say :lol: It won't change that.
the optimum words are - club football. cl football is the pinnacle of that yes but you ask most player(non british) would they rather win the cl with their club or the world cup with their national side. i think you would find the answer would be the world cup

anyway it seems to have gone off topic, my bad :lol:
So what? The highest standard of football is played in the C/L. This is why this competition is what the best should be judged on.
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manu22
Oct 21 2011, 07:25 PM
Zidane was never consistent :o
A little OTT from me but in comparison to Messi and Xavi he doesn't even know the meaning of the word.
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Oct 21 2011, 07:25 PM
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Oct 21 2011, 07:17 PM
thefieldsofanfieldroad
Oct 21 2011, 07:15 PM
StarkRavingGenius
Oct 21 2011, 07:11 PM
thefieldsofanfieldroad
Oct 21 2011, 07:09 PM
the world cup is the biggest competition in the world, how you can say its not is baffling
Fergie, Wenger etc.... agree with me
ask the players, not the managers because its the players opinion that counts not their club managers
The higher standard of football is played in the champions league. It doesn't matter what the players say :lol: It won't change that.
There should be when the players can be cherry picked from across the globe
9 players of the Barca side C/L came from the academy.
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Messi was cherry picked from across the globe.
Edited by manu22, Oct 21 2011, 07:29 PM.
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InWengerWeTrust
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manu22
Oct 21 2011, 07:28 PM
Messi was cherry picked from across the globe.
Messi came from the academy. Who says he would have been this good if he didn't join Barcelona?
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Oct 21 2011, 07:26 PM
manu22
Oct 21 2011, 07:25 PM
Zidane was never consistent :o
A little OTT from me but in comparison to Messi and Xavi he doesn't even know the meaning of the word.
dunno what to say to that. in all fairness he didnt need to be.
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Oct 21 2011, 07:30 PM
manu22
Oct 21 2011, 07:28 PM
Messi was cherry picked from across the globe.
Messi came from the academy. Who says he would have been this good if he didn't join Barcelona?
Messi was cherry picked frm Argentina. if it was his "destiny" to be great hed be great anywhere. just like all the other great players.
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Oct 21 2011, 07:21 PM
Messi against Madrid last season in the semi final did that and Gerrard has done that so Gerrard is now as good as Zidane right?

Zidane was never consistantly anything. You have to be consistant to do that. Also Messi is consistantly exceptional every season.

It is a pathetic way to judge people. If you think people should be judged on 4-5 games every 4 years then there is no point in this debate.

You've said you don't even watch La Liga on Liquid so yeah you're guessing tbh :lol: You'll try and argue this but you haven't a leg to stand on when you have said you don't watch them.
It's quite clear that the whole point of this is to differentiate between "extremely exceptional" players and "extremely, extremely exceptional" players, Gerrard is neither thus he's not as good as Messi or Zidane.

You're chatting s**t. Massive misconception, he was consistent in France, and consistent in Madrid but because he didn't do a roulette or didn't glide past 3 players his performances were

Zidane - World Cup 2006 knockout stages - Spain, Brazil, Portugal & Italy.
Zidane - Euro 2000 - Netherlands, Czech Republic, Denmark, Spain, Portugal & Italy.

Some of the greatest teams of their time, immense pressure as a whole nation's expectations are on your shoulder, one chance, one knockout, different conditions, the only player performing exceptionally on the team yet you say it is a poor way of judging Zidane? I know there is no argument, a "s**t" and "pathetic" way to judge a player? Silly.

I'll say it again, I watch them in the Champions League, which I mentioned, I watch them in the Euros, which I mentioned, and I watch them in the WC, which I mentioned. I really don't want to be watching a shitty match with very little competition & tactics vs. Getafe.
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InWengerWeTrust
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manu22
Oct 21 2011, 07:32 PM
StarkRavingGenius
Oct 21 2011, 07:30 PM
manu22
Oct 21 2011, 07:28 PM
Messi was cherry picked from across the globe.
Messi came from the academy. Who says he would have been this good if he didn't join Barcelona?
Messi was cherry picked frm Argentina. if it was his "destiny" to be great hed be great anywhere. just like all the other great players.
So the Barcelona academy did nothing? Its just a coincidence they are producing the best in the world?
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