-
Welcome Guest [Log In] [Register]
Greetings and welcome to The Football Net. We love talking balls, do you?


You're currently viewing our forum as a guest. Therefore you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use. If you join our community, you'll be able to access member-only sections, take part in the banter, vote in polls and enjoy fun competitions such as fantasy football and the betting exchange. Registration is simple, fast, and completely free.


Join us today on our football forums to talk balls with us!


If you're already a member please log in to your account to access all of our features:

Username:   Password:
Add Reply
Chelsea Charged; over player misconduct
Topic Started: Oct 25 2011, 05:39 PM (296 Views)
mercedes
Member Avatar
Old Hag
Has this been posted already? :S
Quote:
 
Chelsea stand accused of surrounding referee Chris Foy following Jose Bosingwa's sending off in the first half of their 1-0 loss at Loftus Road. That decision also angered Villas-Boas, who admitted he was "very aggressive" with Foy after the final whistle, later accusing the official of being "card happy" and failing to treat both sides equally.

The FA said in a statement: "The FA has today charged Chelsea with failure to ensure their players conducted themselves in an orderly fashion. "This relates to an incident involving Chelsea players surrounding match official Chris Foy, immediately following Jose Bosingwa's dismissal. "The incident occurred in their Premier League fixture against QPR at Loftus Road on Sunday 23 October.

"Separately, the FA has written to Chelsea manager Andre Villas-Boas and asked for an explanation on his post-match media comments. "Villas-Boas has been asked to explain his comments on match official Chris Foy and the assistant referees. "On both counts, the club has until Friday 28 October to respond."

Villas-Boas stood by his comments today, insisting he had said nothing to warrant an FA charge.

"I don't think I said anything I shouldn't have," he said. "I would never question the referee's integrity. But the fact is that, at the moment, we are paying heavily in terms of major decisions. "Maybe this is what the FA (don't) want to hear from me - phrases like, 'The referee has influenced heavily three of our games'."

Villas-Boas accepted officials were only "human" but reiterated his attack on what he claimed was inconsistency in Foy's "extremely unfair" decision-making.

"If you go one route, you have to stick to it for the rest of the game," he said. "With 11 players, we should have played better and there are mistakes we have to avoid and which are fair - you have to be criticised and evaluate yourselves and learn from those mistakes - but it's a very disappointing day for the referee, for Chris Foy. I will stick to my words." He added: "Chris, for this particular game, was card happy and didn't show a pattern to what he's done in the past. "What happened in that game was surprising given what he'd done before."

Villas-Boas revealed he had called referees' chief Mike Riley to complain about officiating for the second time this season, but did not think it would have any effect.

He elected not to appeal Bosingwa's controversial sending-off for a last-man challenge, with the right-back's one-match ban ruling him out of tomorrow night's Carling Cup fourth-round tie at Everton.

Villas-Boas, whose side host Arsenal in the Premier League on Saturday, said: "It might have put us in trouble for the Arsenal game, appealing Bosingwa's red card, and we weren't going to use him in the Carling Cup anyway."

Ashley Cole is also suspended after picking up his fifth booking of the season, while Drogba will serve a three-match ban for his two-footed tackle on Adel Taarabt.

Despite his side racking up a further six yellow cards at Loftus Road, as well as their fourth red of the campaign, Villas-Boas denied Chelsea had a discipline problem.

"It's not indiscipline, it's not aggressiveness," he said. "There might be tactical fouls, that you have to allow. You have to respect. "We didn't ever lose our discipline. We committed fouls because we were exposed, but that's not indiscipline." Villas-Boas also hit back at QPR midfielder Shaun Derry's claim that Chelsea "lost their heads" on Sunday, and branded suggestions they had been bullied as "ridiculous"."Fantastic Shaun Derry," Villas-Boas snapped sarcastically. "You could ask Shaun Derry whether, playing against nine men, they might have done a bit better. "Full praise to their commitment and to their strength, but they don't have to blow it out of proportion because we won't."
Posted Image

GET YOUR KIT OFF
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
thefieldsofanfieldroad
Member Avatar
“The trouble with referees is that they know the rules, but they do not know the game.”
not surprised tbh the way they acted at qpr during the match at the weekend was utterly unprofessional. chelski have always had a thing about surrounding the ref which goes back to the time mourinho was in charge of the club.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
UwesGrandad
Member Avatar
El Mago
Before the QPR game Villas-Boas has come across as a very cool character, assured and calm but he let himself down massively with his comments against Foy.
To claim Foy got 2 decisions right and the rest wrong is pathetic and instead he should look at the behavior of his players. They ran around like they simply deserved to win.
The ref wasn't great, none of them seem to be these days but it was his players mistakes that lost the game.

I'm a fan of AVB but he is already starting to show signs of pressure after his outburst.
Will be keeping Cech in my pocket for the next 3 months. Thanks Pedro :thumb:
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
thefieldsofanfieldroad
Member Avatar
“The trouble with referees is that they know the rules, but they do not know the game.”
yeah uwe, there is a lot of inconsistency were the refs are concerned so far this season. i know different refs have different views on each situation but a lot of them seem to not be using their common sense.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
UwesGrandad
Member Avatar
El Mago
thefieldsofanfieldroad
Oct 25 2011, 08:01 PM
yeah uwe, there is a lot of inconsistency were the refs are concerned so far this season. i know different refs have different views on each situation but a lot of them seem to not be using their common sense.
I think its pressure mate. PL games have so many cameras the ref doesn't stand a chance. Sometimes the media replay a decision over and over from 2, 3 or 4 angles just to prove a man who made judgement at full speed without the benefit of a replay.

I'd never be a ref cos i'd probably end up doing a Cantona :lol:
Will be keeping Cech in my pocket for the next 3 months. Thanks Pedro :thumb:
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
thefieldsofanfieldroad
Member Avatar
“The trouble with referees is that they know the rules, but they do not know the game.”
i know that feeling fella, i would end up smacking a player or something :lol:

if their feeling the pressure, then the need for the video ref is more crucial. at least it would ease the pressure on them a bit
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Wee Eck
Member Avatar
Token Jock
You think you get it bad?
Tonight at Rugby Park the ref waved play on to a tackle (East Fife fwd swung at ball and caught McKeown) and Killie kicked the ball out for McKeown to recieve treatment. Our Captain complained to the ref as it should have been a free kick and got booked for his protest, amazingly the ref then went and sent of the East Fife fwd for a second bookable offence :blink:
Even as a Killie fan I was left scratching my head. The ref and lino clearly never seen the incident but went on a crowd shout and opposition captains complaint to decide to send the player off.


It really ruined the game for them as they are only a 2nd div club and it was a chance for them to get to a cup semi,
Posted Image
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
The Plastic Flag
Member Avatar
Boring Boring Chelsea
AVB was wrong......... and right!

He was wrong to say what he did in public, but he was right that Foy was shocking!
Trying to get an accurate picture of reality, even when that's unpleasant or inconvenient!
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Robertomancity
What day is it?
I was listening to talk sport on the way to football yesterday and they where saying that QPR have put a complaint in to the FA about an article on chelsea's website that basically labels them as a championship side.

Has anyone got the article? also why would you complain? There is no better way of getting your players motivated then by showing them that article.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
The Sicilian
Member Avatar
Going To Make You An Offer You Cant Refuse.
I Am Legend
Oct 26 2011, 09:33 AM
AVB was wrong......... and right!

He was wrong to say what he did in public, but he was right that Foy was shocking!
That's the problem.

Refs expect respect, but IMO it has to be earned and for me all they would have to do is come out and admit they're wrong. Even if they put it down to being human, not seeing it etc. I'd certainly respect them a lot more for admitting faults.
Posted Image
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
UwesGrandad
Member Avatar
El Mago
The Sicilian
Oct 26 2011, 01:34 PM
I Am Legend
Oct 26 2011, 09:33 AM
AVB was wrong......... and right!

He was wrong to say what he did in public, but he was right that Foy was shocking!
That's the problem.

Refs expect respect, but IMO it has to be earned and for me all they would have to do is come out and admit they're wrong. Even if they put it down to being human, not seeing it etc. I'd certainly respect them a lot more for admitting faults.
I'm not sure they are always allowed to have interviews about the game mate?

I agree respect should be earned but players should try earning it too. They fall over, pretend to be injured, scream at ref, swear, intimidate and hussle refs from start to finish then after the game the manager takes over! Then after that its the media. Refs dont stand a chance apology or not.
You might respect them more for an apology but the people in the game dont give a fork as long as they get the decisions they want by almost any means including cheating.

I'm not completely siding with refs and will no doubt be complaining about one soon myself but respect has to start somewhere and for me it should start with the people in the game....not the man in the middle.
Will be keeping Cech in my pocket for the next 3 months. Thanks Pedro :thumb:
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
fourfourtwo
Unwashed Pimple
Referees are terrible at the end of the day! always get a lot decisions wrong yet when the managers are asked what they thought of the game they are punished for telling the truth! That said Terry and Lampard are probably the worst players for surrounding the refs!
Edited by fourfourtwo, Oct 26 2011, 03:09 PM.
Posted Image

watch out for the live scores

Check the best online content for football fashion
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Robertomancity
What day is it?
fourfourtwo
Oct 26 2011, 03:08 PM
Referees are terrible at the end of the day! always get a lot decisions wrong yet when the managers are asked what they thought of the game they are punished for telling the truth! That said Terry and Lampard are probably the worst players for surrounding the refs!
they dont exactly make his job any easier.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
The Sicilian
Member Avatar
Going To Make You An Offer You Cant Refuse.
UwesGrandad
Oct 26 2011, 02:59 PM
The Sicilian
Oct 26 2011, 01:34 PM
I Am Legend
Oct 26 2011, 09:33 AM
AVB was wrong......... and right!

He was wrong to say what he did in public, but he was right that Foy was shocking!
That's the problem.

Refs expect respect, but IMO it has to be earned and for me all they would have to do is come out and admit they're wrong. Even if they put it down to being human, not seeing it etc. I'd certainly respect them a lot more for admitting faults.
I'm not sure they are always allowed to have interviews about the game mate?

I agree respect should be earned but players should try earning it too. They fall over, pretend to be injured, scream at ref, swear, intimidate and hussle refs from start to finish then after the game the manager takes over! Then after that its the media. Refs dont stand a chance apology or not.
You might respect them more for an apology but the people in the game dont give a fork as long as they get the decisions they want by almost any means including cheating.

I'm not completely siding with refs and will no doubt be complaining about one soon myself but respect has to start somewhere and for me it should start with the people in the game....not the man in the middle.
I agree about the players and that's why I think 99% are winkers :lol: I've said it loads on here the 'gentlemen' of football are a dying breed.

I'm not sure, but I know the refs used to come out from time to time and admit why they made a decision. Paul Durkin that fella who went and played as Gimli in LOTR was on TV earlier on Premier league years (03/04 iirc) and they asked him about his decision - he said something along the lines of where he was he couldn't give decision A as if your not sure you shouldn't give it. He also explained why he made another decision which was of a dissallowed goal.

I know they're only human and can make mistakes like everyone does but admitting you're wrong would show you're the bigger man generally and I honestly think they would be respected so much more.

It's very rare a refs decision isn't a major talking point in any game, even uf they came out and did a Wenger "I didn't see it to justify said decision being made" I think the grief they get would be reduced by any level headed person. Media are nothing but whores 99% of the time and write controversial shite because they know the frenzy it causes makes people read.

Look at rugby for a mutual respect, if a foul is made only the captain can question the decision and even then the ref explains why he gave it and such. If football took a more mutual respect look of things rather than the ref is the boss and he is not at fault regardless stubborn approach I personally, perhaps naively believe things would change.
Posted Image
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Wee Eck
Member Avatar
Token Jock
I agree Sicillian, footie could learn a lot from rugby.
At the moment refs are gagged from talking to the media which is wrong, Id make it compulsory for ref and assts to do the first post match interview together.
Posted Image
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous)
ZetaBoards - Free Forum Hosting
Enjoy forums? Start your own community for free.
Learn More · Sign-up Now
Go to Next Page
« Previous Topic · Barclays Premier League · Next Topic »
Add Reply

-- -