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| InWengerWeTrust | Nov 2 2011, 03:06 PM Post #46 |
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If he can't be claimed to be the best then every player to have proved they can are better in your opinion. Otherwise Messi could be No.1 right away. You can't have it both ways and claim that he can be said to be better than some but not others. Messi without playing a game would be the best player the league has to offer. Simply becuase he is a better player than everyone else in the league. He did not flop and as the next line shows you like facts this is one for you Go do some research on his time in England becuase he in no way flopped.In the PL yes but you do not just lose your ability becuase you move bloody leagues!! He has shown his quality already so he should be judged on the player he has been in recent seasons so he has every reason to be judged on RvP's level. |
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| Victor | Nov 2 2011, 04:18 PM Post #47 |
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Don’t be silly, you know exactly what i mean. Half a messi would be better than delap, but he wouldn’t outshine the best we already have here. If you don’t understand that then lets just a agree to disagree, well i will anyway. What he has done elsewhere doesn’t make him the best in a league he hasn’t played in. The best salesman in one company, could move to another and not sell, not until his figures are in the air can he claim to be the best in his new workplace. All i am saying is you cant claim to be the best in any league until you have played in it, who knows maybe messi wouldn’t be as good over here, other players have moved and flopped as you well know & its silly to use a player of messi’s brilliance when talking about this. Rossi didn’t flop then & fergie wanted to keep him as he did so well.... he was brought over as a real prospect & didn’t fit the bill & was sold .... he must have done well then When have i suggested you lose anything when you move leagues? You are totally missing the point. You play too much FM and think you can just pluck names to make a team |
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| InWengerWeTrust | Nov 2 2011, 04:26 PM Post #48 |
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I do unsderstand it but you're showing major double standards. You can't have it both ways he can either be the best right away or he is better than no one. You can't just pick and choose so it suits you. One of those ways doesn't suit me at all but if you think it then fair enough. You used it against Aguero who has already shown he is class over here. He has been class since his move and he isn't even totally settled into the side. Name me a player other than Rossi that SAF has had a buy back clause for? I can't think of one but he did for Rossi becuase he knew how good he was and how good he would be. Rossi did not flop at all, United just had too many strikers at the time so he didn't get the chance. I was taking the p*** becuase they don't so you can't just write them off amongst the best when joining a new league. You'd be wrong. |
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| Victor | Nov 2 2011, 04:31 PM Post #49 |
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not really, its obvious that messi would be better than some EPL players even if he was playing at half he was capable of. however he needs to prove himself to claim to be the best. i just have picked and chosen, you dont agree fair enough anyway, this is about aguero & RVP with the later proving himself much better over time in the EPL & therefore a better EPL player |
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| Victor | Nov 2 2011, 04:32 PM Post #50 |
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I havent said aguero hasnt played well, what he hasnt done is over a period of time performed to RVP level. Therefore overall RVP is a better player with regards to the EPL. What aguero might become is a different question |
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| InWengerWeTrust | Nov 2 2011, 04:34 PM Post #51 |
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Then he would have to prove himself to be better than the worst player meaning he would not be better than anyone to have played in the league. What would he have done to prove in the league he wasn't the worst player? Nothing. I don't agree becuase its double standards. Drogba has shown himself to be better than RvP over time in the EPL so he is currently the best in the league. Well done Drogba. The past means nothing for a start so please forget about that. The here and now Aguero is without a doubt on van Persie's level. |
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| Victor | Nov 2 2011, 04:34 PM Post #52 |
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havent got a clue about the finner working at old traford so i will take your word for it, however what I do know is rossi didnt perform as expected, if he did he would have been sold with or without a buyout clause. to me that means he flopped.. yep I might well be wrong, so might you. its just an opinion |
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| InWengerWeTrust | Nov 2 2011, 04:35 PM Post #53 |
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So you're living in the past basically? |
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| InWengerWeTrust | Nov 2 2011, 04:36 PM Post #54 |
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He didn't get a chance. It was nothing to do with how he performed ![]() Nope you said about me and FM. You're wrong and its not an opinion. |
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| Victor | Nov 2 2011, 04:37 PM Post #55 |
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he'd prove better than say delap in 0.0005 secs as you well know. he might not perform at the highest level as say silva right away & therefore must perform to that same level over time to prove himself. call that double standards if you like |
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| Victor | Nov 2 2011, 04:38 PM Post #56 |
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I guess that is one thing you could level at me & also what you should have said a while back. i'll reply by saying so you live in the future, not only that but one you can predict. |
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| InWengerWeTrust | Nov 2 2011, 04:39 PM Post #57 |
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I know he'd prove to be the best player in the week within a couple of weeks. I'm not sure how its fine for me to prove he would be better than Dealp that quickly but now everyone else
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| Victor | Nov 2 2011, 04:42 PM Post #58 |
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he didnt get the gane time for a reason! or did fergie just not want to play him even though he was good enough he didnt get the chance to perfrom cos he flopped on the training pitch, not even good enough to get a decent run of games. oh right, you meant about the FM comment. Raw nerve eh? it doesnt mean you actually play the game, its a saying about modern fans & the sky generation. no malice intended buddy. & this of course is all about opinion, from both of us. |
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| Victor | Nov 2 2011, 04:43 PM Post #59 |
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delap is an example of many, chirst man whats so hard to fathom. it will be easy for messi to to perform at that level, a little bit harder for him to claim to be the best though. circles anyway... shall we say the same thing again
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| Victor | Nov 2 2011, 04:44 PM Post #60 |
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can i also have the lottery numbers please? |
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Go do some research on his time in England becuase he in no way flopped.


1:45 AM Jul 11