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Oct 31 2011, 07:32 PM
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- Oct 31 2011, 07:17 PM
Phil Jones will be a better player than everyone on that list, except maybe Wilshere and Thiago. Oxlade-Chamberlain of Portsmouth 
Hazard mate.
Hype.
Reality.
Nah Jones plays for Utd so therefore Jones>everyone who has and will ever play football(with no exceptions.)
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Oct 31 2011, 07:37 PM
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I don't see how. Jones isn't close to Wilshere, Thiago, Hazard or Gotze from what i've seen and I rate Jones highly. Also calling Hazard hype is a bit hypocritical when saying Jones is better than the rest as the lad is currently mainly that wanked off so much when Smalling is comfortably the better CB.
It's always hard comparing defenders to creative players as people will instinctively go for the creative players but the potential Jones has is phenomenal. He could play pretty much any position on the pitch and it wouldn't have that much of an effect on his game. His footballing brain is certainly on the same level as those players and his overall ability as a player is up there too. He's the most natural leader I've seen since Roy Keane and he has great control and technique. Also, Smalling isn't "comfortably" better at all. At the moment he is marginally better if anything, but both still have a lot of developing to do. And I'm wumming about Hazard  I don't think it always does. With Arsenal we've had van Persie, Cesc etc... playing well in recent seasons but my thoughts go straight to Sagna when saying our best player in recent seasons I wouldn't agree his football brain or overall ability is as good as the 4 I mentioned but he is close so its hard to clearly judge like you can with some. I know he isn't comfortably better I always go OTT for effect.
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Oct 31 2011, 07:41 PM
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- Oct 31 2011, 07:25 PM
I don't see how. Jones isn't close to Wilshere, Thiago, Hazard or Gotze from what i've seen and I rate Jones highly. Also calling Hazard hype is a bit hypocritical when saying Jones is better than the rest as the lad is currently mainly that wanked off so much when Smalling is comfortably the better CB. Smalling is so much better. Jones is being hyped too much
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Oct 31 2011, 07:42 PM
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I don't see how. Jones isn't close to Wilshere, Thiago, Hazard or Gotze from what i've seen and I rate Jones highly. Also calling Hazard hype is a bit hypocritical when saying Jones is better than the rest as the lad is currently mainly that wanked off so much when Smalling is comfortably the better CB.
It's always hard comparing defenders to creative players as people will instinctively go for the creative players but the potential Jones has is phenomenal. He could play pretty much any position on the pitch and it wouldn't have that much of an effect on his game. His footballing brain is certainly on the same level as those players and his overall ability as a player is up there too. He's the most natural leader I've seen since Roy Keane and he has great control and technique. Also, Smalling isn't "comfortably" better at all. At the moment he is marginally better if anything, but both still have a lot of developing to do. And I'm wumming about Hazard 
I don't think it always does. With Arsenal we've had van Persie, Cesc etc... playing well in recent seasons but my thoughts go straight to Sagna when saying our best player in recent seasons  I wouldn't agree his football brain or overall ability is as good as the 4 I mentioned but he is close so its hard to clearly judge like you can with some. I know he isn't comfortably better  I always go OTT for effect. Good  He is certainly up there. NQAT 
What positions are Mr. Miyachi and Joel Campbell on the list
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Oct 31 2011, 07:43 PM
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I agree with Viva in that sense btw, if a list of 100 greatest players was made 999/1000 would have the top 10 possibly more being all attacking players. Be surprised if the likes of Maldini et al would even get a mention unless it was a poll of defenders tbh.
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Oct 31 2011, 07:44 PM
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Who the hell is voting on this?
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Oct 31 2011, 07:44 PM
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Oct 31 2011, 07:45 PM
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I agree with Viva in that sense btw, if a list of 100 greatest players was made 999/1000 would have the top 10 possibly more being all attacking players. Be surprised if the likes of Maldini et al would even get a mention unless it was a poll of defenders tbh. What you agreeing with? because Jones is a very good prospect but not done anything to be ahead of Wilshere and Thiaga and even Hazard just yet even Smalling id have to add in there.
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Oct 31 2011, 07:45 PM
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Who the hell is voting on this? Public I believe. I voted Jones as it's obvious he's the best on the list. He's lucky Macheda isn't on there I tell ya.
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Oct 31 2011, 07:47 PM
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I agree with Viva in that sense btw, if a list of 100 greatest players was made 999/1000 would have the top 10 possibly more being all attacking players. Be surprised if the likes of Maldini et al would even get a mention unless it was a poll of defenders tbh.
What you agreeing with? because Jones is a very good prospect but not done anything to be ahead of Wilshere and Thiaga and even Hazard just yet even Smalling id have to add in there. That more often than not an attacking player being compared to a defensive one is nigh on impossible and the attacking player will generally be considered the 'better'.
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Oct 31 2011, 07:47 PM
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I agree with Viva in that sense btw, if a list of 100 greatest players was made 999/1000 would have the top 10 possibly more being all attacking players. Be surprised if the likes of Maldini et al would even get a mention unless it was a poll of defenders tbh.
What you agreeing with? because Jones is a very good prospect but not done anything to be ahead of Wilshere and Thiaga and even Hazard just yet even Smalling id have to add in there. What has Thiago done that puts him so far ahead of the likes of Jones?
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I agree with Viva in that sense btw, if a list of 100 greatest players was made 999/1000 would have the top 10 possibly more being all attacking players. Be surprised if the likes of Maldini et al would even get a mention unless it was a poll of defenders tbh.
What you agreeing with? because Jones is a very good prospect but not done anything to be ahead of Wilshere and Thiaga and even Hazard just yet even Smalling id have to add in there.
What has Thiago done that puts him so far ahead of the likes of Jones? I was going to mention that but was unsure of how much he has actually played.
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Oct 31 2011, 07:49 PM
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Ok yh thats fair but i think being a defender you get better with age wheras attackers play better when they are younger. In regards to Jones he hasnt warranted anything just yet defender or not.
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Oct 31 2011, 07:49 PM
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I don't see how. Jones isn't close to Wilshere, Thiago, Hazard or Gotze from what i've seen and I rate Jones highly. Also calling Hazard hype is a bit hypocritical when saying Jones is better than the rest as the lad is currently mainly that wanked off so much when Smalling is comfortably the better CB.
It's always hard comparing defenders to creative players as people will instinctively go for the creative players but the potential Jones has is phenomenal. He could play pretty much any position on the pitch and it wouldn't have that much of an effect on his game. His footballing brain is certainly on the same level as those players and his overall ability as a player is up there too. He's the most natural leader I've seen since Roy Keane and he has great control and technique. Also, Smalling isn't "comfortably" better at all. At the moment he is marginally better if anything, but both still have a lot of developing to do. And I'm wumming about Hazard 
I don't think it always does. With Arsenal we've had van Persie, Cesc etc... playing well in recent seasons but my thoughts go straight to Sagna when saying our best player in recent seasons  I wouldn't agree his football brain or overall ability is as good as the 4 I mentioned but he is close so its hard to clearly judge like you can with some. I know he isn't comfortably better  I always go OTT for effect. Good 
He is certainly up there. NQAT  What positions are Mr. Miyachi and Joel Campbell on the list  Joel Campbell is the greatest player of all time. Just you lot fail to understand the game like us true fans. We appreciate the Joel Campbells of this world
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Oct 31 2011, 07:51 PM
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I agree with Viva in that sense btw, if a list of 100 greatest players was made 999/1000 would have the top 10 possibly more being all attacking players. Be surprised if the likes of Maldini et al would even get a mention unless it was a poll of defenders tbh.
What you agreeing with? because Jones is a very good prospect but not done anything to be ahead of Wilshere and Thiaga and even Hazard just yet even Smalling id have to add in there.
What has Thiago done that puts him so far ahead of the likes of Jones?
I was going to mention that but was unsure of how much he has actually played. won the under 21's and was pretty much the best player there. Comfortably barca's best youngster at the club and whenever he plays impresses. Has played for SPain already which no mean feat considering how good there players are.
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