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Oct 31 2011, 07:51 PM
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I agree with Viva in that sense btw, if a list of 100 greatest players was made 999/1000 would have the top 10 possibly more being all attacking players. Be surprised if the likes of Maldini et al would even get a mention unless it was a poll of defenders tbh.
What you agreeing with? because Jones is a very good prospect but not done anything to be ahead of Wilshere and Thiaga and even Hazard just yet even Smalling id have to add in there.
What has Thiago done that puts him so far ahead of the likes of Jones?
I was going to mention that but was unsure of how much he has actually played.
won the under 21's and was pretty much the best player there. Comfortably barca's best youngster at the club and whenever he plays impresses. Has played for SPain already which no mean feat considering how good there players are.
Jones, along with Smalling, was England's best player at the 21s, has been capped for his country and has impressed every time he's played for united.
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I don't see how. Jones isn't close to Wilshere, Thiago, Hazard or Gotze from what i've seen and I rate Jones highly. Also calling Hazard hype is a bit hypocritical when saying Jones is better than the rest as the lad is currently mainly that wanked off so much when Smalling is comfortably the better CB.
It's always hard comparing defenders to creative players as people will instinctively go for the creative players but the potential Jones has is phenomenal. He could play pretty much any position on the pitch and it wouldn't have that much of an effect on his game. His footballing brain is certainly on the same level as those players and his overall ability as a player is up there too. He's the most natural leader I've seen since Roy Keane and he has great control and technique. Also, Smalling isn't "comfortably" better at all. At the moment he is marginally better if anything, but both still have a lot of developing to do.

And I'm wumming about Hazard :lol:
I don't think it always does. With Arsenal we've had van Persie, Cesc etc... playing well in recent seasons but my thoughts go straight to Sagna when saying our best player in recent seasons :D I wouldn't agree his football brain or overall ability is as good as the 4 I mentioned but he is close so its hard to clearly judge like you can with some. I know he isn't comfortably better :lol: I always go OTT for effect.

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What positions are Mr. Miyachi and Joel Campbell on the list :ph43r:
Joel Campbell is the greatest player of all time. Just you lot fail to understand the game like us true fans. We appreciate the Joel Campbells of this world :bow:
We had our very own Joel Campbell. His name is Manucho.

Every player gets better with age up to a point manu, lol.
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Erikson, Gotze and Hazard are the superstars of tomorrow in my opinion. Gotze probably the best of the lot.

Jones is good and getting better, but to be that far ahead of some very promising talent is a bit daft. The site is probably being advertised in Manchester! On second thoughts, London!!
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I agree with Viva in that sense btw, if a list of 100 greatest players was made 999/1000 would have the top 10 possibly more being all attacking players. Be surprised if the likes of Maldini et al would even get a mention unless it was a poll of defenders tbh.
What you agreeing with? because Jones is a very good prospect but not done anything to be ahead of Wilshere and Thiaga and even Hazard just yet even Smalling id have to add in there.
What has Thiago done that puts him so far ahead of the likes of Jones?
I was going to mention that but was unsure of how much he has actually played.
won the under 21's and was pretty much the best player there. Comfortably barca's best youngster at the club and whenever he plays impresses. Has played for SPain already which no mean feat considering how good there players are.
Jones, along with Smalling, was England's best player at the 21s, has been capped for his country and has impressed every time he's played for united.
Being England's best player and being the player of the tournament is totally different.
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Oct 31 2011, 07:55 PM
Erikson, Gotze and Hazard are the superstars of tomorrow in my opinion. Gotze probably the best of the lot.

Jones is good and getting better, but to be that far ahead of some very promising talent is a bit daft. The site is probably being advertised in Manchester! On second thoughts, London!!
Might be another Fergie trick B)
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I don't see how. Jones isn't close to Wilshere, Thiago, Hazard or Gotze from what i've seen and I rate Jones highly. Also calling Hazard hype is a bit hypocritical when saying Jones is better than the rest as the lad is currently mainly that wanked off so much when Smalling is comfortably the better CB.
It's always hard comparing defenders to creative players as people will instinctively go for the creative players but the potential Jones has is phenomenal. He could play pretty much any position on the pitch and it wouldn't have that much of an effect on his game. His footballing brain is certainly on the same level as those players and his overall ability as a player is up there too. He's the most natural leader I've seen since Roy Keane and he has great control and technique. Also, Smalling isn't "comfortably" better at all. At the moment he is marginally better if anything, but both still have a lot of developing to do.

And I'm wumming about Hazard :lol:
I don't think it always does. With Arsenal we've had van Persie, Cesc etc... playing well in recent seasons but my thoughts go straight to Sagna when saying our best player in recent seasons :D I wouldn't agree his football brain or overall ability is as good as the 4 I mentioned but he is close so its hard to clearly judge like you can with some. I know he isn't comfortably better :lol: I always go OTT for effect.

Good <_<
He is certainly up there. NQAT <_<

What positions are Mr. Miyachi and Joel Campbell on the list :ph43r:
Joel Campbell is the greatest player of all time. Just you lot fail to understand the game like us true fans. We appreciate the Joel Campbells of this world :bow:
We had our very own Joel Campbell. His name is Manucho.

Every player gets better with age up to a point manu, lol.
Of course but defenders seem to get better 25 and over wheras attackers peak earlier from anywhere between 18 and above big age gap tbf
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I don't see how. Jones isn't close to Wilshere, Thiago, Hazard or Gotze from what i've seen and I rate Jones highly. Also calling Hazard hype is a bit hypocritical when saying Jones is better than the rest as the lad is currently mainly that wanked off so much when Smalling is comfortably the better CB.
It's always hard comparing defenders to creative players as people will instinctively go for the creative players but the potential Jones has is phenomenal. He could play pretty much any position on the pitch and it wouldn't have that much of an effect on his game. His footballing brain is certainly on the same level as those players and his overall ability as a player is up there too. He's the most natural leader I've seen since Roy Keane and he has great control and technique. Also, Smalling isn't "comfortably" better at all. At the moment he is marginally better if anything, but both still have a lot of developing to do.

And I'm wumming about Hazard :lol:
I don't think it always does. With Arsenal we've had van Persie, Cesc etc... playing well in recent seasons but my thoughts go straight to Sagna when saying our best player in recent seasons :D I wouldn't agree his football brain or overall ability is as good as the 4 I mentioned but he is close so its hard to clearly judge like you can with some. I know he isn't comfortably better :lol: I always go OTT for effect.

Good <_<
He is certainly up there. NQAT <_<

What positions are Mr. Miyachi and Joel Campbell on the list :ph43r:
Joel Campbell is the greatest player of all time. Just you lot fail to understand the game like us true fans. We appreciate the Joel Campbells of this world :bow:
We had our very own Joel Campbell. His name is Manucho.

Every player gets better with age up to a point manu, lol.
Of course but defenders seem to get better 25 and over wheras attackers peak earlier from anywhere between 18 and above big age gap tbf
That's just an experience thing though, a lot harder to be a defender than a forward.
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Oct 31 2011, 07:56 PM
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I agree with Viva in that sense btw, if a list of 100 greatest players was made 999/1000 would have the top 10 possibly more being all attacking players. Be surprised if the likes of Maldini et al would even get a mention unless it was a poll of defenders tbh.
What you agreeing with? because Jones is a very good prospect but not done anything to be ahead of Wilshere and Thiaga and even Hazard just yet even Smalling id have to add in there.
What has Thiago done that puts him so far ahead of the likes of Jones?
I was going to mention that but was unsure of how much he has actually played.
won the under 21's and was pretty much the best player there. Comfortably barca's best youngster at the club and whenever he plays impresses. Has played for SPain already which no mean feat considering how good there players are.
Jones, along with Smalling, was England's best player at the 21s, has been capped for his country and has impressed every time he's played for united.
Being England's best player and being the player of the tournament is totally different.
It's not Jones' fault Stuart Pearce was his manager :lol: There's also a big difference between playing with Mancienne, Henderson and Walker and playing with Mata, De Gea and Javi Martinez
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I don't see how. Jones isn't close to Wilshere, Thiago, Hazard or Gotze from what i've seen and I rate Jones highly. Also calling Hazard hype is a bit hypocritical when saying Jones is better than the rest as the lad is currently mainly that wanked off so much when Smalling is comfortably the better CB.
It's always hard comparing defenders to creative players as people will instinctively go for the creative players but the potential Jones has is phenomenal. He could play pretty much any position on the pitch and it wouldn't have that much of an effect on his game. His footballing brain is certainly on the same level as those players and his overall ability as a player is up there too. He's the most natural leader I've seen since Roy Keane and he has great control and technique. Also, Smalling isn't "comfortably" better at all. At the moment he is marginally better if anything, but both still have a lot of developing to do.

And I'm wumming about Hazard :lol:
I don't think it always does. With Arsenal we've had van Persie, Cesc etc... playing well in recent seasons but my thoughts go straight to Sagna when saying our best player in recent seasons :D I wouldn't agree his football brain or overall ability is as good as the 4 I mentioned but he is close so its hard to clearly judge like you can with some. I know he isn't comfortably better :lol: I always go OTT for effect.

Good <_<
He is certainly up there. NQAT <_<

What positions are Mr. Miyachi and Joel Campbell on the list :ph43r:
Joel Campbell is the greatest player of all time. Just you lot fail to understand the game like us true fans. We appreciate the Joel Campbells of this world :bow:
We had our very own Joel Campbell. His name is Manucho.

Every player gets better with age up to a point manu, lol.
Of course but defenders seem to get better 25 and over wheras attackers peak earlier from anywhere between 18 and above big age gap tbf
That's just an experience thing though, a lot harder to be a defender than a forward.
Thats my point.
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I agree with Viva in that sense btw, if a list of 100 greatest players was made 999/1000 would have the top 10 possibly more being all attacking players. Be surprised if the likes of Maldini et al would even get a mention unless it was a poll of defenders tbh.
What you agreeing with? because Jones is a very good prospect but not done anything to be ahead of Wilshere and Thiaga and even Hazard just yet even Smalling id have to add in there.
What has Thiago done that puts him so far ahead of the likes of Jones?
I was going to mention that but was unsure of how much he has actually played.
won the under 21's and was pretty much the best player there. Comfortably barca's best youngster at the club and whenever he plays impresses. Has played for SPain already which no mean feat considering how good there players are.
Jones, along with Smalling, was England's best player at the 21s, has been capped for his country and has impressed every time he's played for united.
Being England's best player and being the player of the tournament is totally different.
It's not Jones' fault Stuart Pearce was his manager :lol: There's also a big difference between playing with Mancienne, Henderson and Walker and playing with Mata, De Gea and Javi Martinez
It can go both ways Thiago outshone other quality players within his team. Whearas Jones stood out above rubbish. not sure which one is better than the other as they are both huge accomplishments :)
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i am a huge fan of jones and he would be a great assist to any team but the likes of wilshere. thiago and to a lesser extent goetze and hazard are much attractive to me.
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Where would Jones be on the poll if he was still at Blackburn?
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Where would Jones be on the poll if he was still at Blackburn?
Wouldnt be on it
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i voted dani pacheco :bow: :D
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