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Lampard to lead revolt!
Topic Started: Nov 7 2011, 05:22 PM (1,170 Views)
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The Derry Pele
Nov 7 2011, 05:57 PM
Well off the top of my head celebrating the british army on an international stage would cause offense to anyone from Iraq, Afghanistan, Argentina, Northern Ireland and a few other places
It's not a celebration of the British army, it's a remmberance of those who died for the country.
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The Derry Pele
Nov 7 2011, 06:17 PM
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Nov 7 2011, 06:13 PM
its not a celebration of the british army, its about remembering the poor people that died in the war, a hell of a lot of irish were there too
Is it not for infantry who died during service?
its a rememberance of anyone at all within the allied forces that died, including over 20,000 irish
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Also its not as if its a national emblem its to remember the armed forces who died, which in england its grand at games but at an international level is going to cause offense

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Is it not for infantry who died during service?

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I thought they banned them incase they ended up playing Germany around remeberance day in teh future?


A lot of ignorance being shown here chaps. Armistace Day is not a celebration of any kind; it's a day of remembrance to all those that have died in the service of their country. That goes for Germans, Argentinians and yes, the Irish from both sides of the border. Even if those countries don't use the day as formal remembrance (although the Irish do), it goes for all 'sides'.

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Well if perhaps you part of the family of any of the 26 unarmed people that were shot by the british army on bloody sunday may find it offensive

Shame on you Pele, for spouting your politics in the same sentence as remembrance.
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Shelbourne and Sligo Rovers wore these on their suits arriving at the Aviva Stadium yesterday.
It's the ignorant Irish that have a problem with this, It's not celebrating the British Army. It's remembering the lives of all soliders who have lost their life fighting for their country, Including many Irish.
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Nov 7 2011, 06:24 PM
The Derry Pele
Nov 7 2011, 06:17 PM
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Nov 7 2011, 06:13 PM
its not a celebration of the british army, its about remembering the poor people that died in the war, a hell of a lot of irish were there too
Is it not for infantry who died during service?
its a rememberance of anyone at all within the allied forces that died, including over 20,000 irish
Apologies so, it still does seem that a memorial to armed forces should be kept away from football at an international level be it any nation imo
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Nov 7 2011, 06:29 PM
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Also its not as if its a national emblem its to remember the armed forces who died, which in england its grand at games but at an international level is going to cause offense

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Is it not for infantry who died during service?

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I thought they banned them incase they ended up playing Germany around remeberance day in teh future?


A lot of ignorance being shown here chaps. Armistace Day is not a celebration of any kind; it's a day of remembrance to all those that have died in the service of their country. That goes for Germans, Argentinians and yes, the Irish from both sides of the border. Even if those countries don't use the day as formal remembrance (although the Irish do), it goes for all 'sides'.

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Well if perhaps you part of the family of any of the 26 unarmed people that were shot by the british army on bloody sunday may find it offensive

Shame on you [b['London[/b]derry Pele', for spouting your politics in the same sentence as remembrance.
You're really going try start that off in this thread? Don't say you're innocent you know exactly what you're doing there.
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Nov 7 2011, 06:33 PM
Shelbourne and Sligo Rovers wore these on their suits arriving at the Aviva Stadium yesterday.
It's the ignorant Irish that have a problem with this, It's not celebrating the British Army. It's remembering the lives of all soliders who have lost their life fighting for their country, Including many Irish.
But they didnt fight for there country ;)
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You're really going try start that off in this thread? Don't say you're innocent you know exactly what you're doing there.


Of course I do, it is meant to emphasise my point of how inappropriate that line of comment is, in a discussion of remembrance.
Remembrance is Apolitical and respects all servicemen and citizens of all countries who have given their lives. To be frank, I'm astonished at the level of ignorance on the subject.

A sad reflection of society.
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Well if perhaps you part of the family of any of the 26 unarmed people that were shot by the british army on bloody sunday may find it offensive

Shame on you 'Londonderry Pele', for spouting your politics in the same sentence as remembrance.
You cant be f*cking serious
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Nov 7 2011, 06:36 PM
Kingkev
Nov 7 2011, 06:33 PM
Shelbourne and Sligo Rovers wore these on their suits arriving at the Aviva Stadium yesterday.
It's the ignorant Irish that have a problem with this, It's not celebrating the British Army. It's remembering the lives of all soliders who have lost their life fighting for their country, Including many Irish.
But they didnt fight for there country ;)
Of course they didn't half of them weren't even born :cheeky:

Also you do know that the Poppy isn't only a British thing? Fair few Irish people wear them too to celebrate the lives of the fallen Irish Soliders
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Nov 7 2011, 06:39 PM
The Derry Pele
Nov 7 2011, 06:36 PM
Kingkev
Nov 7 2011, 06:33 PM
Shelbourne and Sligo Rovers wore these on their suits arriving at the Aviva Stadium yesterday.
It's the ignorant Irish that have a problem with this, It's not celebrating the British Army. It's remembering the lives of all soliders who have lost their life fighting for their country, Including many Irish.
But they didnt fight for there country ;)
Of course they didn't half of them weren't even born :cheeky:

Also you do know that the Poppy isn't only a British thing? Fair few Irish people wear them too to celebrate the lives of the fallen Irish Soliders
Not the players you fecking daddymac :lol:
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The Derry Pele
Nov 7 2011, 06:39 PM
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Nov 7 2011, 06:39 PM
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Nov 7 2011, 06:36 PM
Kingkev
Nov 7 2011, 06:33 PM
Shelbourne and Sligo Rovers wore these on their suits arriving at the Aviva Stadium yesterday.
It's the ignorant Irish that have a problem with this, It's not celebrating the British Army. It's remembering the lives of all soliders who have lost their life fighting for their country, Including many Irish.
But they didnt fight for there country ;)
Of course they didn't half of them weren't even born :cheeky:

Also you do know that the Poppy isn't only a British thing? Fair few Irish people wear them too to celebrate the lives of the fallen Irish Soliders
Not the players you fecking daddymac :lol:
I know just couldn't let that opportunity pass :lol:
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i'll sit on the fence for this one. I can see where lampard is coming from and its good he's fighting for what he believes in. I think a lot of people will be backing him up and he's setting a good example being a role model and what not.

At the same time, i also think he's getting a bit carried away taking this this far. There's lots of ways to show your support for remembrance day other than wearing a poppy. Donate money, wear a poppy underneath your strip, draw one on your boots with crayon, wear one on your training kit etc etc. its not like people are going to think he doesnt do his bit or support the cause just because he doesnt have a flower ironed onto his kit.

theres not really a need for a song and dance about it. if i was him i'd say in an interview or release a statement saying i dont agree with it and i feel they should overturn the rule and leave it at that.
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Nov 7 2011, 06:40 PM
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Nov 7 2011, 06:39 PM
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Nov 7 2011, 06:39 PM
The Derry Pele
Nov 7 2011, 06:36 PM
Kingkev
Nov 7 2011, 06:33 PM
Shelbourne and Sligo Rovers wore these on their suits arriving at the Aviva Stadium yesterday.
It's the ignorant Irish that have a problem with this, It's not celebrating the British Army. It's remembering the lives of all soliders who have lost their life fighting for their country, Including many Irish.
But they didnt fight for there country ;)
Of course they didn't half of them weren't even born :cheeky:

Also you do know that the Poppy isn't only a British thing? Fair few Irish people wear them too to celebrate the lives of the fallen Irish Soliders
Not the players you fecking daddymac :lol:
I know just couldn't let that opportunity pass :lol:
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Nov 7 2011, 06:38 PM
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Nov 7 2011, 06:29 PM

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Well if perhaps you part of the family of any of the 26 unarmed people that were shot by the british army on bloody sunday may find it offensive

Shame on you 'Londonderry Pele', for spouting your politics in the same sentence as remembrance.
You cant be f*cking serious
Retracted with apologies. Perhaps you might consider doing the same?
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