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| Tweet Topic Started: Nov 22 2011, 04:32 PM (699 Views) | |
| Victor | Nov 22 2011, 04:32 PM Post #1 |
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Do you have to win things? If so how much? Can this be done over a short period of time or can must you do it over history? Can you be a superpower at the top table without being a giant club? the real club in question here is Man City. To me they are one of the worlds most talked about & powerful clubs now, capable as any bar the real top 2 or 3 when it comes to attracting players &fo rsure they can offer more money than any other club. Does this make them a giant or just a megamoney superclub of the present? |
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| mcfc1975 | Nov 22 2011, 04:36 PM Post #2 |
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City arent a giant club, imo it takes quite a few years to get there. atm there are only liverpool and utd who are bigger than us but that isnt going to last forever i dont really believe this Edited by mcfc1975, Nov 22 2011, 04:42 PM.
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| The Sicilian | Nov 22 2011, 04:40 PM Post #3 |
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| Victor | Nov 22 2011, 04:59 PM Post #4 |
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You might have more money than all the clubs in the world, but at the moment you arnt even as big as Notts Forest or Leeds, Villa, Spurs and the like. Let alone Chelsea & Arsenal Edited by Victor, Nov 22 2011, 05:00 PM.
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| mcfc1975 | Nov 22 2011, 05:06 PM Post #5 |
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meh top of the league edit, City have more pulling power than every club apart from utd, and even that is debateable now so imho, the size of a club doesnt matter, only the position they are in atm. ask a fan of forest where they would rather be Edited by mcfc1975, Nov 22 2011, 05:09 PM.
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| stacie | Nov 22 2011, 05:12 PM Post #6 |
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It's the Liverpool test, for me. They haven't won the league in almost two decades. They've had money troubles, management issues, owner problems - yet they can attract top players and managers. A big club is a different thing to a successful club these days. With all due respect to City, they're not special on their own and they know it. Strip away the money fuelling the club and the world class players would be jogging on because the club on its own doesn't yet have what it takes to earn the kind of money to keep them there. Eventually they'll start making money but you can't transform a mediocre club into a giant club overnight. Any club in the league could be City, but not any club in the league could be Liverpool. |
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| mcfc1975 | Nov 22 2011, 05:15 PM Post #7 |
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the first bit liverpool have won quite a few cups in the last 20 years and , iirc, have only finished out of the top 4 twice. liverpool have had it really tough second bit is spot on, City got lucky and we are living the dream
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| Victor | Nov 22 2011, 05:16 PM Post #8 |
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Yes, I understand you are top of the league. Well done! I am not doubting what you are achieving now. You have totally missed the point & it doesnt surprise me. I am not doubting your spending power & of course thats a massive part of pulling power. But quite often the dullard filthy rich guy doesnt get the girl ![]() To be a true giant of course the size of the club & what you have won matters. |
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| Victor | Nov 22 2011, 05:20 PM Post #9 |
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They havent had a massive world wide fan base, won the Champs League & finished runners up in it as well either have they. Nor have they won the Uefa, Carling & FA Cups... Let alone in the same year! I kind of see what you are saying, as without real domestic success Liverpool have stayed at the highest level. But come on they havent had it that bad! |
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| FLOPP'D | Nov 22 2011, 05:23 PM Post #10 |
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| mcfc1975 | Nov 22 2011, 05:23 PM Post #11 |
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one out of two aint bad, City are anything but "dull" tbh, it doesnt bother me how City are perceived, big, small,medium. i only care how City are doing on the pitch and atm it is forking amazing |
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| Victor | Nov 22 2011, 05:27 PM Post #12 |
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Very true |
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| Victor | Nov 22 2011, 05:30 PM Post #13 |
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Ok if you aint dull you can be likened to that filthy rich old man J. Howard Marshall. Your the football club version of him & so far all you have hooked is a dirty old whore Of course it doesnt bother you & nor should it. City are on the up & you are enjoying the ride. Fair play. I'm just asking if you keep going what must you achieve to really be up there with the very biggest Edited by Victor, Nov 22 2011, 05:30 PM.
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| SuarezWasNotRacist | Nov 22 2011, 05:31 PM Post #14 |
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Summed it up perfectly really. |
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| UwesGrandad | Nov 22 2011, 05:35 PM Post #15 |
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Some of the stuff people say about City does make me laugh. During the late 60's early 70's we WERE the club to be at, played great football and were exciting to watch, with a had full of trophies along the way. We had our moment....Liverpool did in the 80's & 90's....United have had the last 2 decades with a few Arsenal & Chelsea cups along the way. Football has a cycle. The Big 4 of Liverpool, United, Chelsea & Arsenal with Skys help have created the current situation. They made it impossible for smaller clubs to make it without astronomical investment....but now moan its not fair. The Irony ![]() On Topic, City are not Giant but i think you already knew that, but imo we could be in the future. Chelsea were a decent club but not a football Giant by any means. 8 years of RA and now they are considered a CL Giant by most....City can follow suit with a few years of consistancy imo. Everything is in place...its now a matter of time and trophies required to decide if or when we are considered a Giant |
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