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Carling Cup Final Sun 26th; Liverpool v Cardiff
Topic Started: Feb 20 2012, 05:29 PM (6,015 Views)
Papa_Lazarou
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Randolph
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Feb 27 2012, 07:29 PM
Papa_Lazarou
Feb 27 2012, 07:23 PM
It's alright Sic, you can still win the FA Cup............or not :champion:




















You better not win the forking league now :rofl:
Lol, thing is the CC spurred us on to better things. You're still crap :lol:

Nah well done on getting a trophy, after so long without one it's a trophy regardless.
If nothing else it lets us take the p*** out of Arsenal a bit more legitimately now :lol:
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Great day and night out, delighted for us

Wembley is some stadium.

Finished celebrating at 5am, had to get up at 8 to get to airport

in bits
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Suarez photobomb :lol:

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The first trophy after so many years and of a new "era" is always the hardest. Hopefully this will spur the newer players onto wanting to win more, develop a proper winning mentality. It may be a small trophy but, mentally, a trophy win is a trophy win.
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It's all about the mental strength.
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Feb 27 2012, 06:16 PM
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Feb 27 2012, 06:05 PM
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Feb 27 2012, 06:04 PM
Tapping up players...
Cavani wants a League Cup :D
Let's see Commolli referred to big players. This can be interpreted in many ways.

Cavani - Tall = Big player
Lavezzi - They call him chubby one = Big player
Eden Hazard - His name basically means big risk = Big player
Yann M'vila - He's black so he has a big dick = Big player


Yep good on ya Damien. We are almost sorted :D
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John Motson's take on it:


"At the end of the day they've had a 2-2 draw with a Championship team. No need for such celebration.

"Brian Clough, who won it back to back twice with Forest used to say 'John its only the League Cup'. He used to put it on his TV and then eat his fish and chips."

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Ah so the level of opposition in the final means we shouldn't be so happy. Let's forget our victory in the semi-fianl over 2 legs then and the fact we haven't won a single trophy for 6 years. It may be the smallest of the domestic competitions available to us but we still won it and should still be proud. I'm sure Arsenal would have been just as happy had they beaten Birmingham.

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A cup is a cup regardless, I find it odd that a Utd fan would belittle it's effect considering how much of a catalyst it was for them only a few years ago.
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Yes but we already had the foundations of a very strong team and it was starting to click into gear. Liverpool don't and won't be challenging for the title any time soon. The over the top celebrations really were a sign of just how far Liverpool have fallen.

It's a nice trophy to win and certainly better than nothing, but I don't think even spurs were the exuberant in their celebrations when they won. And if people really think that a CC win will attract 'big players' then they need a reality check.
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Yes but we already had the foundations of a very strong team and it was starting to click into gear. Liverpool don't and won't be challenging for the title any time soon. The over the top celebrations really were a sign of just how far Liverpool have fallen.

It's a nice trophy to win and certainly better than nothing, but I don't think even spurs were the exuberant in their celebrations when they won. And if people really think that a CC win will attract 'big players' then they need a reality check.
Agreed. The main thing it will do, if anything, is whet the appetite of the new players (Hendo, Adam, Jose etc.) so that the team now understands what it means to win trophies and kick them on. Hopefully to a CL spot but highly doubt it for a couple of years tbh.

As far as I'm concerned, domestic cups are basically useless when attracting players from abroad. Quality foreign players are only concerned with CL footy and league challenges imo. Fair enough that winning the LC and FA Cup makes us marginally more attractive but it's infinitesmal in comparison to getting Top 4.
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Feb 28 2012, 02:05 AM
Yes but we already had the foundations of a very strong team
You should have just stopped typing your post right there because so do we.
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As said, any of the main trophies is important. It might not be the equivalent of the league/CL and, to a lesser extent, the FA cup but its still better than the likes of the charity shield and the semi friendly things like the Emirates and club world cup. etc. Liverpool most certainly should be glad of it despite the match itself showing some of the weaknesses that have been around all season.

The disagreement is more to do with it being a catalyst for Liverpool and that when it was won by a team that went onto greater things was it a cause of the later success or just a symptom of an already strong outfit.
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It's very hard to analyse a team's performance during a cup final, because let's face it, cup finals are all run on emotion. Sure a manager might have spent the last week or 2 prepping his side tactically, info on certain players and how to play against them etc... but when it comes to the day, the emotion of the day always gets the better of both sets of players.

Yes for this game we did show some weaknesses but i wouldn't say they were weaknesses that other teams will look to exploit due to the nature of the game. A cup final, emotions running high and players who might never get the chance to play at Wembley in a cup final for a very long time so they are going to put in the performance of a life time. I don't see Arsene Wenger going "look at how Cardiff exposed this side we'll do that"... they'll expose us with their own sheer amount of quality available to them.

I think for this particular game, i can't see a manager have the players come in, sit them down in and go into too great detail analysing and picking the bones out of that performance. If we had lost 5 - 0 and been p*** poor, lack of effort and not a care in the world then i could see the manager losing his rag.. ala post Bolton.

As for Motson... he is so out of touch with reality it is unbelievable.
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