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England squad for Denmark
Topic Started: Feb 27 2014, 06:07 PM (4,062 Views)
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Not watched Liverpool much over the last few seasons then
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I'd take Ox over Henderson too but not Carrick over Gerrard.

As well as offering more threat on his occasional forays forward, Gerrard is a true leader and as England transitions out of the golden generation you will find that we don't have many of those. Or many experienced heads.

Carrick was very good for the last couple of seasons but he is not in that sort of form now. He also seems to be getting more and more defensive, playing overly safe balls more than he used to. Of course this can have everything to do with a general lack of confidence at Utd but right now Gerrard is a better shout than Carrick…………and that's from me, a Utd fan.
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Jeffers is more of a Liverpool hater than a Man Utd fan :D


In our scenaro of Wilshere Gerrard and one other, I think it would be suicide to take Oxlade to an international tournament to play that role when he has only played it a handful of times. Considering they will be up against top midfielders, and the two he would be partnering aren't exactly world class defensively.

Ox has loads of potential and I like him as a player, but you need to think about the unit. And Henderson fits much better than Barkley or Ox
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Mar 4 2014, 02:03 PM
Jeffers is more of a Liverpool hater than a Man Utd fan :D


In our scenaro of Wilshere Gerrard and one other, I think it would be suicide to take Oxlade to an international tournament to play that role when he has only played it a handful of times. Considering they will be up against top midfielders, and the two he would be partnering aren't exactly world class defensively.

Ox has loads of potential and I like him as a player, but you need to think about the unit. And Henderson fits much better than Barkley or Ox
So you're lining up with Henderson in a central role too?
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Yeah, are you suggesting England should go with Gerrard and Wilshere as a 2? In that case yes Ox would be far superior to Henderson. Wilshere and Gerrard would be doomed to fail though :fishing:
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Carrick has to be a starter for England. He's probably the only England player that can effectively sit deep and dictate the play

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Gerrard and Cork just to name two.

Based on form you can't definitively say any Utd player should be a starter imo.
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Right now we're talking tomorrow's game with Denmark, not the WC itself. Plenty of time for things to change, form to improve etc.
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Ah in that case I hope no Liverpool players play :lol:


Gerrard and Sturridge have a horrible record of picking up injuries while playing for England. That bastard Roy said last time he purposely made Sturridge play through an injury to test him. Low and behold he misses a couple of months for us. If only we had him for the City and Chelsea games :angry:
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Mar 4 2014, 02:03 PM
Jeffers is more of a Liverpool hater than a Man Utd fan :D


In our scenaro of Wilshere Gerrard and one other, I think it would be suicide to take Oxlade to an international tournament to play that role when he has only played it a handful of times. Considering they will be up against top midfielders, and the two he would be partnering aren't exactly world class defensively.

Ox has loads of potential and I like him as a player, but you need to think about the unit. And Henderson fits much better than Barkley or Ox
Why would Ox be a much worse shout than Henderson? England aren't going in to the world cup with a realistic view of winning it so what's the point in playing safe with a solid but very unspectacular player in Henderson when Chamberlain is clearly the better option for the future? Surely it's better for Ox to play this year rather than in 4 years time with no experience in the world cup situation :S

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Mar 4 2014, 04:03 PM
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Mar 4 2014, 02:03 PM
Jeffers is more of a Liverpool hater than a Man Utd fan :D


In our scenaro of Wilshere Gerrard and one other, I think it would be suicide to take Oxlade to an international tournament to play that role when he has only played it a handful of times. Considering they will be up against top midfielders, and the two he would be partnering aren't exactly world class defensively.

Ox has loads of potential and I like him as a player, but you need to think about the unit. And Henderson fits much better than Barkley or Ox
Why would Ox be a much worse shout than Henderson? England aren't going in to the world cup with a realistic view of winning it so what's the point in playing safe with a solid but very unspectacular player in Henderson when Chamberlain is clearly the better option for the future? Surely it's better for Ox to play this year rather than in 4 years time with no experience in the world cup situation :S

I can't argue with that logic. :thumb:
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Why would Ox be a much worse shout than Henderson? England aren't going in to the world cup with a realistic view of winning it so what's the point in playing safe with a solid but very unspectacular player in Henderson when Chamberlain is clearly the better option for the future? Surely it's better for Ox to play this year rather than in 4 years time with no experience in the world cup situation :S

Because one is a natural CM, with offensive and defensive output barely matched by any midfielders in the league. He's played the most games of any player in the most attacking team in the country, which is made up of quite a few English players who should be starting in the WC.

The other is a potentially top class winger, who has played a couple of games as a CM, but has spent most of the season injured.
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Mar 4 2014, 05:17 PM


Because one is a natural CM, with offensive and defensive output barely matched by any midfielders in the league. He's played the most games of any player in the most attacking team in the country, which is made up of quite a few English players who should be starting in the WC.

Come on the most attacking team in the country only has one English player in its starting 11….. and he plays in goal!!
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Liverpool have scored the most goals in the league
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Gerrard Henderson/Carrick


That's what I'd try.
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